Fellow teachers, Before anyone slams me for stating my opinion I want to say that I realize that economy is very tough right now and there are plenty of good people out of work in all fields but I need to state my opinion because in NJ we have a Governor who is trying to hold teachers accountable for the failings of the economy in general, specific...See MoreFellow teachers, Before anyone slams me for stating my opinion I want to say that I realize that economy is very tough right now and there are plenty of good people out of work in all fields but I need to state my opinion because in NJ we have a Governor who is trying to hold teachers accountable for the failings of the economy in general, specifically the banking industry, housing market, shoddy spending by previous NJ administrations and whatever else he can blame us for. Governor Christie is trying to get rid of tenure and on the face value people say, "That's a good thing because I don't have job security in my banking job." True, but trust me when I tell you that there are politics involved in every school and using student test scores to decide who is effective and who is not is truly one of the worst things that can happen. Administrations can twist and manuever scores any way they want to get the desired results. True, to get rid of a crappy teacher via the Tenure process is long and costly and does need to be streamlined a little, but to make a blanket policy that all teachers have to be judged highly effective or effective in order to retain their job is ridiculous. Before you slam that statement please wait. I don't mean that a teacher who is beyond a dought not doing their job shouldn't be removed. What I mean is the evaluation system cannot be trusted to adequately measure a teachers ability to teach or not. I can speak for my school only(and a few others) when I say that the system for evaluation changes yearly as do the makeup of the students from year to year. Some years, some classes I have had are absolutely a joy to work with while other years the kids are chronically absent, behind their peers gradewise, disruptive etc. I am not complaining because I know that is what I signed up for. I am just stating that I have little control of certain things. Some schools have wealthy families who will supply their children with the needed materials, while others such as mine have hard working families, good people but lots of single parent homes where parent needs to work 2-3 jobs to make ends meet and kids are left to fend for themselves a little more. It is not equal. The schools are not equal. Hence, the educators should not be judged by same criteria. I have not even begun to desribe the low morale in my school or the reasons why I think our Gov would bash the teaching profession, but it is a problem. It is real, the stress is real, and we need to stand up and not let Christie bully us anymore.
We got ZERO raises this year, while health insurance premiums rose by $50 a month. We haven't had more than $200 raise in 6 years.
The state budget is short $2 BILLION again this year, so it looks like education will be cut again (they cut 8% last year!) Our state is mostly tea-partying old folks and hillbillies with barely a high school education (hence, the election of our Gov. Scott!).
In my school district, we have 2,300 homeless students and almost 60% of our total student population is on free/reduced lunch. (near Orlando)
Regarding this stupid push to eliminate tenure: Why is granting tenure after 3 years a bad thing? 3 years is more than enough time to determine if a teacher is fit to teach or not. If there are bad teachers in the classrooms, I blame lazy administrators. (and the teacher shortage which was very real here 5 years ago! They were begging anyone to take the job just 2 weeks before school started).
Why can't we at least grant tenure to the 'best' teachers? (the ones who score "highly effective" on the new value-added formula? NOPE - FL lawmakers crushed that proposal. So you are the "best" and raise test scores year after year, but all you are is a TEMP, contract employee whose job ENDS every June. What a punch in the face that is.
Then they promise us "merit pay" raises for scoring in the top two levels. Well, we don't even have the money to keep the freakin lights on now! My district is considering a 4-day school week because the budget keeps getting cut. Where is merit pay going to come from when the state budget is in the toilet year after year? Then we had lawmakers who pushed through a tax CUT for education on top of the other cuts. So our local education taxes FELL this year. (I pay more to the city and county than for the school part anyway, and my family pays way more for Medicare tax than we do for schools. Where is the fairness?)
Our new value-added evaluation plan is 100% un-tested. There is zero money for any teacher raises. The state is demanding a list of teachers by name and evaluation scores to see if they want to yank your teaching certificate. (yep) The value-added model has up to a 30% ERROR RATE. How is that for fun times as a teacher? In order for VA to be the most accurate, you have to use multiple years of data. (3 is a good start) We are going to use only 2, which makes a much higher error rate) AND when comparing the test scores each year, FL just passed a law that makes the scoring totally different and harder, so from year 1 to year 2, you won't see anything similar, which negates the entire basis of value-added comparison!
Finally, think about this: with NO tenure, teachers will be forever in fear of losing their jobs. What better way to keep them muzzled??? Nobody will be able to speak about about waste, fraud, and abuse that they might see at work. Nope, we will have to either lose our jobs or sweep it under the rug. Nice way for Principals and the Board to decide to save $$$ by denying services to students. (I saw that first hand in Georgia - we just stopped giving services to ESOL and ESE because we needed to keep those sub-groups small. I was actually told that by the AP at my school).
FL will have a test in every single subject soon. 1st grade PE = multiple choice test and the kiddies better pass or Coach will be fired.
All this does is make the stupid testing companies RICH. You should see all of the errors in our textbooks here. We find at least 10 per week. Major errors with content and the mult. choice questions. This is the same company that produces and scores our standardized test that is the ONLY thing teachers will be rated on for the value-added. (just one big test per year - no other tests + your classroom evaluation, split 50/50 the test and your evaluations.
Things are just too screwed up for words in education today, and then we have the Presidential candidates who want to de- fund the Dept of Ed and close it down. We are going backwards in all possible ways.
On 12/19/11, spedup wrote: > Fellow teachers, Before anyone slams me for stating my > opinion I want to say that I realize that economy is very > tough right now and there are plenty of good people out of > work in all fields but I need to state my opinion because > in NJ we have a Governor who is trying to hold teachers > accountable for the failings of the economy in general, > specifically the banking industry, housing market, shoddy > spending by previous NJ administrations and whatever else > he can blame us for. Governor Christie is trying to get > rid of tenure and on the face value people say, "That's a > good thing because I don't have job security in my banking > job." True, but trust me when I tell you that there are > politics involved in every school and using student test > scores to decide who is effective and who is not is truly > one of the worst things that can happen. Administrations > can twist and manuever scores any way they want to get the > desired results. True, to get rid of a crappy teacher via > the Tenure process is long and costly and does need to be > streamlined a little, but to make a blanket policy that all > teachers have to be judged highly effective or effective in > order to retain their job is ridiculous. Before you slam > that statement please wait. I don't mean that a teacher > who is beyond a dought not doing their job shouldn't be > removed. What I mean is the evaluation system cannot be > trusted to adequately measure a teachers ability to teach > or not. I can speak for my school only(and a few others) > when I say that the system for evaluation changes yearly as > do the makeup of the students from year to year. Some > years, some classes I have had are absolutely a joy to work > with while other years the kids are chronically absent, > behind their peers gradewise, disruptive etc. I am not > complaining because I know that is what I signed up for. I > am just stating that I have little control of certain > things. Some schools have wealthy families who will supply > their children with the needed materials, while others such > as mine have hard working families, good people but lots of > single parent homes where parent needs to work 2-3 jobs to > make ends meet and kids are left to fend for themselves a > little more. It is not equal. The schools are not equal. > Hence, the educators should not be judged by same criteria. > I have not even begun to desribe the low morale in my > school or the reasons why I think our Gov would bash the > teaching profession, but it is a problem. It is real, the > stress is real, and we need to stand up and not let > Christie bully us anymore.
please fasten your seat belts. welcome to reality.
> On 12/19/11, spedup wrote: >> Fellow teachers, Before anyone slams me for stating my >> opinion I want to say that I realize that economy is very >> tough right now and there are plenty of good people out of >> work in all fields but I need to state my opinion because >> in NJ we have a Governor who is trying to hold teachers >> accountable for the failings of the economy in general, >> specifically the banking industry, housing market, shoddy >> spending by previous NJ administrations and whatever else >> he can blame us for. Governor Christie is trying to get >> rid of tenure and on the face value people say, "That's a >> good thing because I don't have job security in my banking >> job." True, but trust me when I tell you that there are >> politics involved in every school and using student test >> scores to decide who is effective and who is not is truly >> one of the worst things that can happen. Administrations >> can twist and manuever scores any way they want to get the >> desired results. True, to get rid of a crappy teacher via >> the Tenure process is long and costly and does need to be >> streamlined a little, but to make a blanket policy that all >> teachers have to be judged highly effective or effective in >> order to retain their job is ridiculous. Before you slam >> that statement please wait. I don't mean that a teacher >> who is beyond a dought not doing their job shouldn't be >> removed. What I mean is the evaluation system cannot be >> trusted to adequately measure a teachers ability to teach >> or not. I can speak for my school only(and a few others) >> when I say that the system for evaluation changes yearly as >> do the makeup of the students from year to year. Some >> years, some classes I have had are absolutely a joy to work >> with while other years the kids are chronically absent, >> behind their peers gradewise, disruptive etc. I am not >> complaining because I know that is what I signed up for. I >> am just stating that I have little control of certain >> things. Some schools have wealthy families who will supply >> their children with the needed materials, while others such >> as mine have hard working families, good people but lots of >> single parent homes where parent needs to work 2-3 jobs to >> make ends meet and kids are left to fend for themselves a >> little more. It is not equal. The schools are not equal. >> Hence, the educators should not be judged by same criteria. >> I have not even begun to desribe the low morale in my >> school or the reasons why I think our Gov would bash the >> teaching profession, but it is a problem. It is real, the >> stress is real, and we need to stand up and not let >> Christie bully us anymore.
On 12/27/11, NJTeacherTalk wrote: > Here is a new website that caters specifically to the great > educators throughout the state of NJ. It allows the > teachers of NJ to let their voices be heard. Lots of people > talking about our profession right now. It is time we hear > what really takes place throughout our profession from the > source, NJ Teachers themselves. NJ teachers can submit > articles, rate their principals, or participate in the > discussion forums. All are welcome.
Are conditions "the pits"? Yes, pret...See MoreOn 1/19/12, Nancy wrote: > Hi Karen, > > I don't know the answer to your question, but I will soon be > relocating to Florida. Where in Florida are you? Can you tell > me more about it? > > Thanks.
Hi, I'm in the Central FL area and can give you some info if you would like.
Are conditions "the pits"? Yes, pretty much. FL has a huge percentage of children in poverty. My district has 41,000 students and almost 60% are on free/reduced lunch. Most classes will average around 50% minority. Parents complain that we are "doing too much math" and other nonsense. Many kids show up for kindergarten totally unprepared (never held a crayone, don't know letters or letter sounds, etc)
Tenure is gone in FL unless you currently have it. Your entire first year here will be on "probation" meaning you can be fired anytime for no reason. After that, you will be on "annual contract" forever. Pay is 47th lowest in the US. The good thing is we do have a class size amendment that caps class sizes. Some districts are having major budget issues and are proposing a 4- day school week (Marion and Pasco I think). Teachers haven't had raises in years in my district, not even the $200 "step".
The FL DOE just voted in December to toughen the cut scores for our FCAT exam, so that will be in play for this April's test. Almost half of 3rd and 5th graders are now projected to fail the test. Everything is focused on that one test now. Teacher evaluations are 50% test scores on FCAT and 50% classroom observations. (the new and totally untested "value added" formula for test scores)
I know other teachers who have been confronted by parents at their homes and one female teacher had a parent come to her house and ram her car with his truck. A high school administrator told me "I don't know how high school teachers get out of bed in the morning. About 1/3 of students do not want to be in classes and ruin everything for the rest."
Most jobs that open are at the worst, Title I schools now because teachers are fleeing those schools. Sad, but teachers are positioning themselves in the best possible schools for success with the new rating system. For example, until we have a test for every single subject and every single grade (as req'd by our new law), 1st grade teachers will have 40% of their evalaution based on the FCAT scores of the school overall. How is that fair? It's not. FL also has very high student mobility, so in some schools 50% of your class will be gone before the end of the school year (and replaced by new students from all over the state and country).
Also, one of my former co-workers recently moved to NJ and found a teaching job (her salary went from $38,400 here to $66,000 there!) She says she was hired in part due to having the Nat'l Board Certification.
If you have a few years of teaching experience and can get a regular FL certificate, check out FL Virtual School. This would be an option for someone with a high school background. You work from home too. LOTS of work, long hours, etc. But it's a job, and you don't have to deal with distruptive students in a classroom setting.
On 1/10/12, Karen wrote: > I received my teaching degree in NJ and then moved to FL. > I've been teaching here for 10 years and although I know > conditions are not great for teaching in NJ either...here > in FL they are the lowest of the low. I'm looking into > moving back and wanted to see if anyone knew whether some > districts accept at least some years of experience teaching > in other states for salary consideration purposes. Thank > you in advance to anyone with helpful information.
I have been applying every year for a teaching job in NJ to no avail. I took a job in Maryland for two years but then moved back home. I'm wondering if maybe my resume is to blame. Are there any good sites to help revamp it?
When I was putting together my resume I took ideas fro...See MoreOn 1/12/12, Katharine wrote: > I have been applying every year for a teaching job in NJ to > no avail. I took a job in Maryland for two years but then > moved back home. I'm wondering if maybe my resume is to > blame. Are there any good sites to help revamp it? Hi Kathrine,
When I was putting together my resume I took ideas from several websites. I googled teacher resumes, and art teacher resumes etc. The site that stands out in my mind is resumes for teachers.com.
I wish you luck, I have been looking for a job for a year now. I have sent out about 30 resumes, and was called for maybe five interviews. So my resume must need help too. It is tough to find a job now. I am finding that many positions are being filled with teachers already in their system. It may be a good idea to get a job as an aid, then you will be known in the school and recommended by the principal if the job is in another school in the district.