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Thinkin' of moving there...

by Arizona

Dec 11, 2009

Hello, I am entertaining the idea of moving there. I have never even been to SC before. I am wanting a total change from AZ. I am a certified K-8 Elementary and 7-12 Secondary English teacher. I have the majority of my experience in K- 8, but no official TRADITIONAL high school English experience yet. I am currently teaching high school-age youth in a non-traditional academic setting for a vocational training program.

My heart is in traditional school. I have taught both Language Arts before, so it's not like I don't have ANY experience. I'm a good teacher (of course, I know I would have to prove that) and do NOT contribute to the shameful educational ranking our state has (and I say that with humility :)).

My question is, I'm thinking of the Columbia area, and would like to know the job outlook for someone in my position. Also, is it hard to switch over certificates? Is there a separate state test I would have to take in ORDER to get my SC certificate?

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rmc For those of you thinking of moving here...I moved here to SC because of all the wonderful things I heard about it. I heard it was a great place to live with great teaching opportunities. I recieved my master's degree and teaching credential and guess what...no jobs! nothing, zilch, nada!!! I was told by one district that there were over 1,000 appl...See MoreFor those of you thinking of moving here...I moved here to SC because of all the wonderful things I heard about it. I heard it was a great place to live with great teaching opportunities. I recieved my master's degree and teaching credential and guess what...no jobs! nothing, zilch, nada!!! I was told by one district that there were over 1,000 applicants competing for only a handful of jobs! I truly believe I could be happy here but I can't make it here without a job. I have a family to support. Now I am stuck, with absolutely no job prospects. Please...for those of you thinking of moving here...unless you have any ties to someone working in the school district you would like to work, it's very difficult to find a teaching job here. I graduated at the top of my class and have several years teaching experience and can't support my family. I moved to South Carolina to have a better life for my children and now feel that this was the worst mistake of my life! Of course, this is only my experience and some may say that one person's story doesn't make a difference, but it does make a difference to me! I don't want anyone else to go through what I'm going through. It's a horrible feeling knowing that it really doesn't matter how much education you have or what credentials you have. There are simply not enough teaching jobs here.

On 12/27/09, Angie wrote: > I would also like to note that Theodore DOES NOT know me nor my situation. > I am not nor was I ever given preferential treatment. I am simply a great > teacher who knows her limits and does her best. DO NOT pretend to know me, > Mr. Jones, as you do not. Also, you receive your info second hand. Were > you ever a teacher in SC? If so, I have not seen you state that. You're > knowledge is 2nd hand, ours is first hand. > > Mr. Rogers is correct, it is what you make it. :) As is everything. We > don't need Unions here, we know the difference between right and wrong, we > don't need to pay someone to tell us. > > The choice is yours. I hope you consider working here, it is GREAT place > to live, work, and raise a family. I was not born and raised here. I > moved here 10 years ago and I have lived all over the country including > Europe. SC is a great place. > > On 12/27/09, Will Rogers wrote: >> >> WE CAN TELL WHO CAME FROM UP NORTH! >> >> It is always what you make of it. Do not think you are powerless here, >> as I learned....it is a matter of WHAT you know...study up! My >> induction classes were invaluable from Mrs. Adams, and I utilized that >> information. >> >> YOU ARE NOT UP NORTH! You cannot be rude, lazy, and nasty and get away >> with it here! Just because you do not like it, it does not mean >> someone else won't! >> >> Don't be fooled by unions either! I have seen unions ruin a teacher >> faster than can be done here in SC! AND I WAS JUST OBSERVING! I was >> not involved, thankfully, with the union. I saw them DESTROY a teacher >> with 25 years of experience just so they could get this young girl >> into the school!! >> >> I no longer have ANY faith in the yankee "unions"....they are full of >> graft, theft, dishonesty, and only protect their friends. >> >> All your wife needs to do is to go directly to the principal, if >> necessary the superintendant, and get the information! Don't leave >> your head in the sand....GET INFORMATION! If needed, get an attorney. >> >> Will >> >>>> As Angie says she is a newbie to SC and that also means Angie >>>> has been given preferential treatment. What Angie has not told >>>> you or does not know about SC is that when you sign a teaching >>>> contract in SC a SC law intentionally removes your rights to due >>>> process. Your rights to due process have been removed so that >>>> when the principal or someone else in the district with >>>> authority or a parent decides they don't like you or you begin >>>> to make too much money out the door you go. My wife was a SC >>>> classroom math teacher for 17 years. We left SC and were gone >>>> for nearly ten years while my wife was employed as a senior >>>> research scientist in math assement testing. We returned here to >>>> care for my wife's parents and she began teaching again. Whereas >>>> Angie was given preferential treatment and trained in the ADEPT >>>> evaluation system my wife was not. Even tho my wife was aked to >>>> teach AP cal. AP stats. and two other high level math cources as >>>> a favor for the G/d Oconee school district as a favor for them >>>> and has a 100% passing rate of all the students she taught, >>>> failing one ADEPT evaluation has ended her teaching career in >>>> SC. My wife was intentionally not informed of the existance of >>>> the ADEPT evaluation system and even now has no idea of how to >>>> comply with it. So like I said. You need to make SC a drive >>>> thru. For if in anyway you are not a social fit the authorioties >>>> of a SC school district will tear you apart and think they have >>>> have done God a favor and SC law lets them get away with it. I >>>> am not a SC school teacher but I really know the character of >>>> the aristrocratic South Carolinian. Believe me you do not want >>>> to teach school here. >>> >>> >>> Do not teach in this state. No union protection. No actual >>> "contract." Horrid benefits and a pitiful retirement system. Your >>> administrators/district can and will require things from you that a >>> union state would never, ever get away with. Now, you can take >>> these facts with "a grain of salt," but they are facts never the >>> less. Add to this a statewide mentality of holding education as a >>> very low priority, and you have, as they say, "a mess." Southern >>> hospitality extends as far as your face, because once your back is >>> turned, you better look out. >> take with a grain of salt, but if I were you, I'd still be watching >>> my back. Bless your heart.

Dec 29, 2009

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Charleston Teach rmc,

I am sorry to hear about your troubles!! We are in the midst of a horrible economy thanks to unregulated financial institutions and over a trillion in spending for pointless wars. Our national priorities are horribly skewed! Why should we keep borrowing from China in order to be the world's policeman??? We can't afford it. Corruption ...See Morermc,

I am sorry to hear about your troubles!! We are in the midst of a horrible economy thanks to unregulated financial institutions and over a trillion in spending for pointless wars. Our national priorities are horribly skewed! Why should we keep borrowing from China in order to be the world's policeman??? We can't afford it. Corruption in congress (witness the health care bribing fiasco), etc. make me very worried for our country (don't feel like we can call it a 'nation' anymore- that would imply a fictitious sense of unity, at present at least).

rmc is a victim of misplaced priorities- period.

I wish you better luck in 2010!

On 12/29/09, rmc wrote: > For those of you thinking of moving here...I moved here > to SC because of all > the wonderful things I heard about it. I heard it was a > great place to live with great teaching opportunities. > I recieved my master's degree and teaching credential > and guess what...no jobs! nothing, zilch, nada!!! I was > told by one district that there were over 1,000 > applicants competing for only a handful of jobs! I > truly believe I could be happy here but I can't make it > here without a job. I have a family to support. Now I > am stuck, with absolutely no job prospects. > Please...for those of you thinking of moving > here...unless you have any ties to someone working in > the school district you would like to work, it's very > difficult to find a teaching job here. I graduated at > the top of my class and have several years teaching > experience and can't support my family. I moved to > South Carolina to have a better life for my children > and now feel that this was the worst mistake of my > life! Of course, this is only my experience and some > may say that one person's story doesn't make a > difference, but it does make a difference to me! I > don't want anyone else to go through what I'm going > through. It's a horrible feeling knowing that it really > doesn't matter how much education you have or what > credentials you have. There are simply not enough > teaching jobs here. > > On 12/27/09, Angie wrote: >> I would also like to note that Theodore DOES NOT know >> me nor my situation. I am not nor was I ever given >> preferential treatment. I am simply a great teacher >> who knows her limits and does her best. DO NOT >> pretend to know me, Mr. Jones, as you do not. Also, >> you receive your info second hand. Were you ever a >> teacher in SC? If so, I have not seen you state that. >> You're knowledge is 2nd hand, ours is first hand. >> >> Mr. Rogers is correct, it is what you make it. :) As >> is everything. We don't need Unions here, we know the >> difference between right and wrong, we don't need to >> pay someone to tell us. >> >> The choice is yours. I hope you consider working >> here, it is GREAT place to live, work, and raise a >> family. I was not born and raised here. I moved here >> 10 years ago and I have lived all over the country >> including Europe. SC is a great place. >> >> On 12/27/09, Will Rogers wrote: >>> >>> WE CAN TELL WHO CAME FROM UP NORTH! >>> >>> It is always what you make of it. Do not think you >>> are powerless here, as I learned....it is a matter >>> of WHAT you know...study up! My induction classes >>> were invaluable from Mrs. Adams, and I utilized >>> that information. >>> >>> YOU ARE NOT UP NORTH! You cannot be rude, lazy, and >>> nasty and get away with it here! Just because you >>> do not like it, it does not mean someone else >>> won't! >>> >>> Don't be fooled by unions either! I have seen >>> unions ruin a teacher faster than can be done here >>> in SC! AND I WAS JUST OBSERVING! I was not >>> involved, thankfully, with the union. I saw them >>> DESTROY a teacher with 25 years of experience just >>> so they could get this young girl into the school!! >>> >>> I no longer have ANY faith in the yankee >>> "unions"....they are full of graft, >>> theft, dishonesty, and only protect their friends. >>> >>> All your wife needs to do is to go directly to the >>> principal, if necessary the superintendant, and get >>> the information! Don't leave your head in the >>> sand....GET INFORMATION! If needed, get an >>> attorney. >>> >>> Will >>> >>>>> As Angie says she is a newbie to SC and that >>>>> also means Angie has been given preferential >>>>> treatment. What Angie has not told you or does >>>>> not know about SC is that when you sign a >>>>> teaching contract in SC a SC law intentionally >>>>> removes your rights to due process. Your rights >>>>> to due process have been removed so that when >>>>> the principal or someone else in the district >>>>> with authority or a parent decides they don't >>>>> like you or you begin to make too much money >>>>> out the door you go. My wife was a SC classroom >>>>> math teacher for 17 years. We left SC and were >>>>> gone for nearly ten years while my wife was >>>>> employed as a senior research scientist in math >>>>> assement testing. We returned here to care for >>>>> my wife's parents and she began teaching again. >>>>> Whereas Angie was given preferential treatment >>>>> and trained in the ADEPT evaluation system my >>>>> wife was not. Even tho my wife was aked to >>>>> teach AP cal. AP stats. and two other high >>>>> level math cources as a favor for the G/d >>>>> Oconee school district as a favor for them and >>>>> has a 100% passing rate of all the students she >>>>> taught, failing one ADEPT evaluation has ended >>>>> her teaching career in SC. My wife was >>>>> intentionally not informed of the existance of >>>>> the ADEPT evaluation system and even now has no >>>>> idea of how to comply with it. So like I said. >>>>> You need to make SC a drive thru. For if in >>>>> anyway you are not a social fit the >>>>> authorioties of a SC school district will tear >>>>> you apart and think they have have done God a >>>>> favor and SC law lets them get away with it. I >>>>> am not a SC school teacher but I really know >>>>> the character of the aristrocratic South >>>>> Carolinian. Believe me you do not want to teach >>>>> school here. >>>> >>>> >>>> Do not teach in this state. No union protection. >>>> No actual "contract." Horrid benefits >>>> and a pitiful retirement system. Your >>>> administrators/district can and will require >>>> things from you that a union state would never, >>>> ever get away with. Now, you can take these facts >>>> with "a grain of salt," but they are >>>> facts never the less. Add to this a statewide >>>> mentality of holding education as a very low >>>> priority, and you have, as they say, "a >>>> mess." Southern hospitality extends as far >>>> as your face, because once your back is turned, >>>> you better look out. >>> which you may take with a grain of salt, but if I >>>> were you, I'd still be watching my back. Bless >>>> your heart.

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Theodore A. Jones On 12/30/09, Charleston Teach wrote: > rmc, > > I am sorry to hear about your troubles!! We are in the > midst of a horrible economy thanks to unregulated financial > institutions and over a trillion in spending for pointless > wars. Our national priorities are horribly skewed! Why > should we keep borrowing from China in order...See MoreOn 12/30/09, Charleston Teach wrote: > rmc, > > I am sorry to hear about your troubles!! We are in the > midst of a horrible economy thanks to unregulated financial > institutions and over a trillion in spending for pointless > wars. Our national priorities are horribly skewed! Why > should we keep borrowing from China in order to be the > world's policeman??? We can't afford it. Corruption in > congress (witness the health care bribing fiasco), etc. make > me very worried for our country (don't feel like we can call > it a 'nation' anymore- that would imply a fictitious sense > of unity, at present at least). > > rmc is a victim of misplaced priorities- period. > > I wish you better luck in 2010! > > On 12/29/09, rmc wrote: >> For those of you thinking of moving here...I moved here >> to SC because of all >> the wonderful things I heard about it. I heard it was a >> great place to live with great teaching opportunities. >> I recieved my master's degree and teaching credential >> and guess what...no jobs! nothing, zilch, nada!!! I was >> told by one district that there were over 1,000 >> applicants competing for only a handful of jobs! I >> truly believe I could be happy here but I can't make it >> here without a job. I have a family to support. Now I >> am stuck, with absolutely no job prospects. >> Please...for those of you thinking of moving >> here...unless you have any ties to someone working in >> the school district you would like to work, it's very >> difficult to find a teaching job here. I graduated at >> the top of my class and have several years teaching >> experience and can't support my family. I moved to >> South Carolina to have a better life for my children >> and now feel that this was the worst mistake of my >> life! Of course, this is only my experience and some >> may say that one person's story doesn't make a >> difference, but it does make a difference to me! I >> don't want anyone else to go through what I'm going >> through. It's a horrible feeling knowing that it really >> doesn't matter how much education you have or what >> credentials you have. There are simply not enough >> teaching jobs here.

>> Angie I am not a SC classroom teacher but my wife was. Any state in the US that by law intentionally removes the right of due process regarding a class, as SC had done to its teachers, those teachers would be very wise to form collective bargaining units, if they are wise. Angie I have not made any pretense of actually being one of your acquaintences. From the info you have stated about yourself I suspect you entered the teaching professing by the route of PACE or TAP or some other preferential program. Both of those programs give preferential ADEPT training that was not nor is avaliable to Mrs. Jones. You may be a great teacher, but that is your opinion. I may be great at the things I do, but someone else will tell you. It won't be me. >> On 12/27/09, Angie wrote: >>> I would also like to note that Theodore DOES NOT know >>> me nor my situation. I am not nor was I ever given >>> preferential treatment. I am simply a great teacher >>> who knows her limits and does her best. DO NOT >>> pretend to know me, Mr. Jones, as you do not. Also, >>> you receive your info second hand. Were you ever a >>> teacher in SC? If so, I have not seen you state that. >>> You're knowledge is 2nd hand, ours is first hand. >>> >>> Mr. Rogers is correct, it is what you make it. :) As >>> is everything. We don't need Unions here, we know the >>> difference between right and wrong, we don't need to >>> pay someone to tell us. >>> >>> The choice is yours. I hope you consider working >>> here, it is GREAT place to live, work, and raise a >>> family. I was not born and raised here. I moved here >>> 10 years ago and I have lived all over the country >>> including Europe. SC is a great place. >>> >>> On 12/27/09, Will Rogers wrote: >>>> >>>> WE CAN TELL WHO CAME FROM UP NORTH! >>>> >>>> It is always what you make of it. Do not think you >>>> are powerless here, as I learned....it is a matter >>>> of WHAT you know...study up! My induction classes >>>> were invaluable from Mrs. Adams, and I utilized >>>> that information. >>>> >>>> YOU ARE NOT UP NORTH! You cannot be rude, lazy, and >>>> nasty and get away with it here! Just because you >>>> do not like it, it does not mean someone else >>>> won't! >>>> >>>> Don't be fooled by unions either! I have seen >>>> unions ruin a teacher faster than can be done here >>>> in SC! AND I WAS JUST OBSERVING! I was not >>>> involved, thankfully, with the union. I saw them >>>> DESTROY a teacher with 25 years of experience just >>>> so they could get this young girl into the school!! >>>> >>>> I no longer have ANY faith in the yankee >>>> "unions"....they are full of graft, >>>> theft, dishonesty, and only protect their friends. >>>> >>>> All your wife needs to do is to go directly to the >>>> principal, if necessary the superintendant, and get >>>> the information! Don't leave your head in the >>>> sand....GET INFORMATION! If needed, get an >>>> attorney. >>>> >>>> Will >>>> >>>>>> As Angie says she is a newbie to SC and that >>>>>> also means Angie has been given preferential >>>>>> treatment. What Angie has not told you or does >>>>>> not know about SC is that when you sign a >>>>>> teaching contract in SC a SC law intentionally >>>>>> removes your rights to due process. Your rights >>>>>> to due process have been removed so that when >>>>>> the principal or someone else in the district >>>>>> with authority or a parent decides they don't >>>>>> like you or you begin to make too much money >>>>>> out the door you go. My wife was a SC classroom >>>>>> math teacher for 17 years. We left SC and were >>>>>> gone for nearly ten years while my wife was >>>>>> employed as a senior research scientist in math >>>>>> assement testing. We returned here to care for >>>>>> my wife's parents and she began teaching again. >>>>>> Whereas Angie was given preferential treatment >>>>>> and trained in the ADEPT evaluation system my >>>>>> wife was not. Even tho my wife was aked to >>>>>> teach AP cal. AP stats. and two other high >>>>>> level math cources as a favor for the G/d >>>>>> Oconee school district as a favor for them and >>>>>> has a 100% passing rate of all the students she >>>>>> taught, failing one ADEPT evaluation has ended >>>>>> her teaching career in SC. My wife was >>>>>> intentionally not informed of the existance of >>>>>> the ADEPT evaluation system and even now has no >>>>>> idea of how to comply with it. So like I said. >>>>>> You need to make SC a drive thru. For if in >>>>>> anyway you are not a social fit the >>>>>> authorioties of a SC school district will tear >>>>>> you apart and think they have have done God a >>>>>> favor and SC law lets them get away with it. I >>>>>> am not a SC school teacher but I really know >>>>>> the character of the aristrocratic South >>>>>> Carolinian. Believe me you do not want to teach >>>>>> school here. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do not teach in this state. No union protection. >>>>> No actual "contract." Horrid benefits >>>>> and a pitiful retirement system. Your >>>>> administrators/district can and will require >>>>> things from you that a union state would never, >>>>> ever get away with. Now, you can take these facts >>>>> with "a grain of salt," but they are >>>>> facts never the less. Add to this a statewide >>>>> mentality of holding education as a very low >>>>> priority, and you have, as they say, "a >>>>> mess." Southern hospitality extends as far >>>>> as your face, because once your back is turned, >>>>> you better look out. >>>> which you may take with a grain of salt, but if I >>>>> were you, I'd still be watching my back. Bless >>>>> your heart.

Dec 30, 2009

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Will Rogers Tony,

First of all, no, not all unions are bad. The bad thing is that ost of them have become corrupted by people who are in it for the money. We end teacher abuses by ALL teachers becoming intelligent and knowledgeable abouot the political process and become political leaders where we live.

We CAN work together in groups, but rem...See MoreTony,

First of all, no, not all unions are bad. The bad thing is that ost of them have become corrupted by people who are in it for the money. We end teacher abuses by ALL teachers becoming intelligent and knowledgeable abouot the political process and become political leaders where we live.

We CAN work together in groups, but remember, managers/professional in the traditional workforce are not permitted unions per se, they negotiate their contracts individually.

Once we form a group with intelligent cooperation, we design a standard set of contracts. We get those contracts as standardized forms across the entire state, and FORCE the boards and administrators to follow the law....by taking them to court over each and every infraction, and I mean every infraction in relation to teacher evaluation, classroom monitoring, teacher salaries, etc.

Once we have a set or team of individuals that will fight, change SHALL happen....but you have to remember this - education in America is POLITICALLY DRIVEN!

Will

On 12/29/09, Tony wrote: > Will, > > I appreciate your thoughtful answer and thanks. > > Are all unions, bad, however? How can we end teacher abuses > without a union? > > Tony > > On 12/29/09, Will Rogers wrote: >> Dear "To-Will" >> >> NEVER said ALL northerners are "rude, lazy, and >> nasty" did I? I can only speak from what I have >> seen educatiors up north do....hide behind their >> "union" to do the following....please >> remember I SAW THIS IN CLASSROOMS: >> >> 1. Coach/teacher: notes on the board (all >> week)-students do not talk or ask questions, just copy >> what is on board - teacher feet up on dest reading >> paper ALL DAY....and still has a job. - Lazy >> >> 2. Teacher cusses out a student in front of the whole >> class, then refuses to allow the student to go to the >> office or guidance. Not once, not twice, but 5 >> times...1 student, every day, each day the girls came >> to the class. Later learnede the teacher was mad at the >> student for not continuing to date her son. - Nasty. >> >> 3. A teacher I was observing was asked a REVELANT >> question - teacher's respoonse? "Shut the F*&* up >> until I am done giving you the notes." Then a few >> monuutes later, after class was copying again, >> "Just get your A$% out of my room girl." - >> Rude. >> >> I will not even go into what I saw in the >> "Union" meetings! Drinking, sexual advances, >> and other inappropiate behavior...on school property! >> Go unions! >> >> I am fortunate ot have met some REAALLY awesome >> educatiors too: Dr. Richard Nichols, Ms. Suzie >> Pescatore, Mr. Brad Wetzel just to name a few. They are >> truly SUPERIOR examples, live in Pennsylvania, and are >> oeople we should emulate. >> >> No matter WHERE you are...not everyone is bad, and not >> everyone is awesome either...you get both. >> >> And yes, I KNOW FOR A FACT What Would Jesus Do! That is >> why I forgive, try to suggest ways to assist, and >> progress forward, helping as many as I can along the >> way....and I hope you do also. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Will >> >> On 12/28/09, To- Will wrote: >>> Will, >>> >>> So all Northerners are "rude, lazy, and >>> nasty?" Wow. >>> >>> Southern hospitality on display here- for all the >>> world to see?? >>> >>> WWJD >>> >>> >>> On 12/27/09, Will Rogers wrote: >>>> >>>> WE CAN TELL WHO CAME FROM UP NORTH! >>>> >>>> It is always what you make of it. Do not think you >>>> are powerless here, as I learned....it is a matter >>>> of WHAT you know...study up! My induction classes >>>> were invaluable from Mrs. Adams, and I utilized >>>> that information. >>>> >>>> YOU ARE NOT UP NORTH! You cannot be rude, lazy, and >>>> nasty and get away with it here! Just because you >>>> do not like it, it does not mean someone else >>>> won't! >>>> >>>> Don't be fooled by unions either! I have seen >>>> unions ruin a teacher faster than can be done here >>>> in SC! AND I WAS JUST OBSERVING! I was not >>>> involved, thankfully, with the union. I saw them >>>> DESTROY a teacher with 25 years of experience just >>>> so they could get this young girl into the school!! >>>> >>>> I no longer have ANY faith in the yankee >>>> "unions"....they are full of graft, >>>> theft, dishonesty, and only protect their friends. >>>> >>>> All your wife needs to do is to go directly to the >>>> principal, if necessary the superintendant, and get >>>> the information! Don't leave your head in the >>>> sand....GET INFORMATION! If needed, get an >>>> attorney. >>>> >>>> Will >>>>

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TechnoMage There is way too much wrong in this account to be correct. Even in the state of SC there are laws which forbid the outcomes you described. Sometimes when you are dealing with an ass you need a Lawyer. This sounds like such a case. They CAN only get away with these things if you let them. But they CAN get away with these things IF you LET them. DON'...See MoreThere is way too much wrong in this account to be correct. Even in the state of SC there are laws which forbid the outcomes you described. Sometimes when you are dealing with an ass you need a Lawyer. This sounds like such a case. They CAN only get away with these things if you let them. But they CAN get away with these things IF you LET them. DON'T 12/22/09, Theodore A. Jones wrote:

> > > As Angie says she is a newbie to SC and that also means Angie > has been given preferential treatment. What Angie has not told > you or does not know about SC is that when you sign a teaching > contract in SC a SC law intentionally removes your rights to due > process. Your rights to due process have been removed so that > when the principal or someone else in the district with > authority or a parent decides they don't like you or you begin > to make too much money out the door you go. My wife was a SC > classroom math teacher for 17 years. We left SC and were gone > for nearly ten years while my wife was employed as a senior > research scientist in math assement testing. We returned here to > care for my wife's parents and she began teaching again. Whereas > Angie was given preferential treatment and trained in the ADEPT > evaluation system my wife was not. Even tho my wife was aked to > teach AP cal. AP stats. and two other high level math cources as > a favor for the G/d Oconee school district as a favor for them > and has a 100% passing rate of all the students she taught, > failing one ADEPT evaluation has ended her teaching career in > SC. My wife was intentionally not informed of the existance of > the ADEPT evaluation system and even now has no idea of how to > comply with it. So like I said. You need to make SC a drive > thru. For if in anyway you are not a social fit the authorioties > of a SC school district will tear you apart and think they have > have done God a favor and SC law lets them get away with it. I > am not a SC school teacher but I really know the character of > the aristrocratic South Carolinian. Believe me you do not want > to teach school here. > On 12/22/09, Angie wrote: >> Hi! I am glad you are considering SC as a potential residence. >> I used to live in Ft. Huachuca, AZ many years ago and I >> attended Sierra Vista HS for my freshman year. :) If you move >> here, then the brutal Summers will be a breeze for you! :) >> >> I have to be honest, in regards to SC, there's only one other >> place I would ever live and that is near my family in another >> state. We moved here about 10 years ago and I love it here. I >> live in what it is considered the "Upstate." I live about >> 15-20 minutes from Charlotte, NC and about 90 minutes from >> Columbia, SC. >> >> I cannot offer experience in Columbia, but I do have input into >> my own county and districts within. I have been very supported >> by my district and my fellow teachers. I've been teaching for >> 3 years so I am still considered a 'newbie.' I teach 8th grade >> Math. I came into teaching after 10 years in the Construction >> Industry. While it is true we do not have a strong affiliation >> with the NEA, the Palmetto state has several other 'union' >> opportunities if you are interested. I have not felt the need >> to be supported by a union, I don't belong to one. >> >> While the reputation of education in this state is in question, >> there is no question that we need and desire good teachers. >> The pay isn't so hot, but you knew that when you got into >> teaching. The rewards are great and while we struggle (as does >> anywhere else) we do reap rewards. I love working for SC and I >> love my district. I'm often humbled by my own colleagues, >> there's some great teachers here. >> >> I apologize for the bad responses you may receive, but I have >> found that whenever I ask a question on here that I have to >> consider the source and take it with a grain salt. I will say >> that the Construction Industry is thriving also. I don't mean >> actual labor-wise, but in regards to the business and >> management aspects. Experience in management & accounting are >> helpful up here near Charlotte, NC. Again, I have no knowledge >> of life in Columbia, SC. >> >> The SCDOE website, while not very user friendly, is a great way >> to get info on how to become a teacher in SC. >> [link removed]!!

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