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Email addresses from Wisconsin Dept. of Pub. Inst.

by Tom Pickett of South Carolina

Feb 17, 2011

There are 4,346 Email records to this set. There are 9,098 Links from the Wisconsin site. This sets scan is complete, this is a link mirror of the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction. Every link and every email from their site is included, it is complete. Enjoy. Tom Pickett, [email removed]

by Anyone

Feb 17, 2011

GET BACK TO WORK YO BUMS!

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cole On 2/18/11, Anyone wrote:

> The greedy unions have brought us to this point. Why would a government > other than maybe the former Soviet Union own a power plant? The > progressive movement is OVER! Is is a dinosaur left over from the days of > Stalin.

The progressive movement in the United States stopped child labor, ...See More

Feb 18, 2011

to angry Do you have a masters degree?

On 2/17/11, Angry wrote: > On 2/17/11, Angry wrote: Who felt sorry for me when my company > took pay from us, took away holidays and vacation days, changed > our health insurance drastically (not for the better) and > haven't given us a raise in four years! We don't have the > option of "collec...See More

Feb 19, 2011

support for Governor Walker

by eric conklin

Feb 17, 2011

I've President Obama explain to us that these puplic employees are our friends and neighbors. I'm sorry but my friends and neighbors don't come to my house every April 15 and take money from me to fund thier pensions and pay their medical insurance.

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Bob Crowley Our company took a 10% pay cut and happy to do so verses losing my job completely because my company went bankrupt. I already have 5% back and hope by the end of the year to get the other 5%. Will I get a raise next year, doubt it but I won't be part of the 9% unemployed. The union workers should consider having a job or not since the state can't p...See More

Feb 22, 2011

Teacher On 2/22/11, Bob Crowley wrote: >Re... Our company took a 10% pay cut and happy to do so verses... > The only problem with your statement is the fact that you, in your private employment, benefit from the market increases and then have to accept cuts with decreases. Teachers, do not get the upside of the market, they agreed to do their job wit...See More

Feb 22, 2011

Children don't learn because teachers get a free ride

by eric

Feb 17, 2011

The children will suffer if the teachers have to contribute to thier retirement? The children already are suffering from all the liberal multicultural bs you feed them everyday.

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cole Good points!

And I also want to know what a "liberal multicultural bs" education is anyways? Algebra? Chemistry? Social Studies? Do you mean that schools read books that have people in them who aren't white? Is that a problem? Do you mean to tell me we shouldn't educate kids about other cultures? People in this country are already collabo...See MoreGood points!

And I also want to know what a "liberal multicultural bs" education is anyways? Algebra? Chemistry? Social Studies? Do you mean that schools read books that have people in them who aren't white? Is that a problem? Do you mean to tell me we shouldn't educate kids about other cultures? People in this country are already collaborating with people all over the world for their jobs. My husband goes to China and India since his company outsourced a lot of work there. If we're becoming more global are you insinuating we still shouldn't care about other cultures or how they work? My cousin is a computer programmer who works with other brilliant minds in real time on his computer to design games. He works with people all over the world. And this trend is only growing.

I agree that schools need to be reformed and that there are issues with what is being taught and how. But that isn't solely the teachers fault. Teachers teach what they are told to teach. The fact the same old curriculum they are forced to teach is out of date is the fault of many - the government, the media, the parents, the administrators, and wise-asses who make nasty comments and don't try to educate themselves on how they can actually help. Or just take easy pot shots at teachers on an on-line forum.

On 2/20/11, nice post Susan! molly/ca nfm wrote: > On 2/18/11, Susan Hughes wrote: >> On 2/17/11, eric wrote: >>> The children will suffer if the teachers have to contribute >>> to thier retirement? The children already are suffering >>> from all the liberal multicultural bs you feed them >>> everyday. >> It's fairly obvious from your posting that academics was not >> your strong suit; "thier" "bs" and sentence struture. Please >> take your uneducated bias elsewhere. In this country, >> teachers are some of the lowest paid "professionals" compared >> to the world scale and also are expected to "educate" everyone >> to a college level whereas every other country in the world >> sorts kids out according to their ability and only allows some >> to go on to high school and college.

Feb 20, 2011

terrie Eric, who do you think mandates teachers to teacher the liberal multicultural bs? Our legislators.

On 2/17/11, eric wrote: > The children will suffer if the teachers have to contribute > to thier retirement? The children already are suffering > from all the liberal multicultural bs you feed them > everyday.

Feb 20, 2011

Teachers should be respected!

by bonbon

Feb 17, 2011

I have taught for 35 years in Illinois. We negotiated contracts and the state should live by them. I fully support the Wisconsin teachers and all unions. My state took away my social security that I qualified for by teaching in the Lutheran school system for 15 years. They cut my social security in half ( which I paid for). Thank God the democrats ...See More

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cole Teachers have an incredibly hard job. Many do not know what it like to teach before they become a teacher - we lack parental support, societal support, administrative support and work under ridiculous conditions. Did any teacher dream that they would have to manage a classroom with 30+ kids whose abilities range so widely. Or that you wouldn't have...See MoreTeachers have an incredibly hard job. Many do not know what it like to teach before they become a teacher - we lack parental support, societal support, administrative support and work under ridiculous conditions. Did any teacher dream that they would have to manage a classroom with 30+ kids whose abilities range so widely. Or that you wouldn't have enough books for all the students? Or that there wouldn't be enough paper to make copies for the kids. Or that there wouldn't be a single computer that was made after 1995? And why we decided that age is the way we will distinguish what you should know when you should know it is asinine. It is unfair to teachers. As anyone with children knows, some learn to walk at 8 months and others 18. We become teachers because we want to change the world and we continue to teach (at least some do) because we love our students and what we do.

We want to get our kids to love reading. We want to instill curiosity; we want them to learn to ask good questions about the information they are getting. We want to help them learn teamwork, ethics, critical thinking, and problem solving. Instead we walk into a broken system that asks us to teach them to take your precious test that measures none of these things.

It is not solely the teacher's fault. They probably share less of the burden of the blame than the people on this forum complaining about them. Teachers are teaching what they are told to teach and they are even being told how to teach it. Stop scapegoating. The SYSTEM is broken. On every level, people need to step up and demand that the education system is reformed, not that kids are given ridiculous tests that measure almost nothing useful. Let's change the tests. Let's change the way our schools run. We aren't preparing kids for Jeopardy. So the fact that there is a problem with the schools is everyone's fault. That includes you.

On 2/19/11, danesinc wrote: > On 2/19/11, crazypeople wrote: >> You know what conditions are like before you become a teacher. If you >> dont like it find a new job. Its not the tax payers responsibility to >> give your a high standard of living for doing much of nothing. And >> lets face it, test scores prove teachers are not doing very much to >> begin with. >> >> Everyone has a right to pursue the american dream. No one has a right >> to have it handed to them for doing nothing or very little. If you >> dont like the working conditions you simply find a new job or career. >> You are only responsible for yourself. >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> And lets look at the test scores shall we? All across the >>>> nation scores are pathetic. That is all the proof we need to >>>> know teachers are not doing the job they are paid for. Pay >>>> should be based on performance and nothing else. >>> >>> Teachers need to be more proactive before people like WOW and the >>> others who smell the blood of teachers are successful in ripping away >>> the protections your union offers against their hate and resentment. >>> >>> Wisconsin teachers are standing their ground peacefully and >>> courageously and they need the support of teachers across the >> country. >>> >>> Teachers did NOT cause the crash of the economy, but they make an >>> easy target. >>> >>> The Wisconsin governor rejected the teacher's union offer to comply >>> with the cuts in benefits and salary, but the governor rejected that >>> and wants to take away the teachers' collective bargaining >>> protections. His agenda is clear and if he is successful, the show >>> will be coming to your state soon. >>> >>> And for those police and firefighters in Wisconsin and everywhere, >>> right now the governor of Wisconsin isn't going after your union, >>> salary and benefits, but a false sense of security bought in >>> Wisconsin isn't going to hold up. > > Yeah, just blame the teachers for kids' low test scores! What happened to > the responsibility of parents who are responsible for bringing kids into > this world? And what about society? From what kids see on television & > in the movies, either on DVD or in a theater, no wonder many of them have > no desire to learn. You can't bring a horse to the water trough if the > horse does not want to drink. Many kids do not want to learn. > So, "crazypeople," go back to your life that only you do well & with a > tremendous amount of effort, because you are one-of-a-kind.

Feb 20, 2011

Neal I don't know what you do for a living but what would you do if your peformance were based on wrong, or substandard raw materials, and you could do nothing to purchase the correct or standard materials?

How do you think the customers would percieve your performance?

We have disabled students that are expected to score the same as...See More

Feb 20, 2011

by Louis DeCou

Feb 18, 2011

You should be totally and utterly angry with the deportment of the teachers we are seeing in your state capital. I live in Illinois, and before that in New Jersey. All of these state have financial difficulty. I am a retired accountant, but my mother was a teacher for 40 years. If she were still alive I'm sure she would have been appalled at the be...See More

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cole On 2/19/11, well wrote: > "I just love how Dems through a fit when people had pictures of > Obama and called him hitler and other things. The dems said > that kind of rhetoric is not acceptable. > > Now I look around the country and see all kinds of Dems, > Teachers at that, Doing the same thing but its ok for them to > act tha...See MoreOn 2/19/11, well wrote: > "I just love how Dems through a fit when people had pictures of > Obama and called him hitler and other things. The dems said > that kind of rhetoric is not acceptable. > > Now I look around the country and see all kinds of Dems, > Teachers at that, Doing the same thing but its ok for them to > act that way."

Many people do not approve of comparisons to Hitler ever. I for one do not approve of either side doing this - never have, never will. Once again, it's being ridiculously hyperbolic. Walker like Hitler? Idiotic. Obama like Hitler? Assanine.

And people on BOTH sides are huge hypocrites - they think it's okay when their party does it, but scream and cry when the other one does. Do you really think that all dems think it's okay to make comparisons to Hitler, or are you just trying to insight anger? Because even when I saw the Republicans doing it, I didn't think "all Republicans think this is okay" or "all Republicans are stupid". I have many friends in both parties and I don't like making sweeping and ridiculous generalizations about people in either party, so please think about it when you get angry and think these things and really think about it before you write them down for the world to read. It's easy to lash out in anger. And the easy way is what has gotten this country to this broken, angry, polarized place.

"Then whats to be expected from liberals. They > did the same thing to Bush and others. Liberals see nothing > wrong with doing anything it takes to make people see it their > way and to do as they say. No one else is allowed to have an > opinion unless it is the same as theirs."

So when Republicans say that "liberals" hate America what is that? Isn't that trying to say liberals can't have an opinion opposite to theirs or they "hate America"? What kind of message do Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh send to those who have a different opinion than they do? That they welcome dialogue and that we should respect different opinions? I for one think both parties are hypocrites and neither one is contributing to making this country any better. And neither do your harsh generalizations and nasty comments.

Feb 19, 2011

R Duncan On 2/18/11, Louis DeCou wrote: > You should be totally and utterly angry with the deportment > of the teachers we are seeing in your state capital. I live > in Illinois, and before that in New Jersey. All of these > state have financial difficulty. I am a retired accountant, > but my mother was a teacher for 40 years. If she were sti...See More

Feb 19, 2011

California NEH Workshops for Educators

by Dr. Laura Talamante

Feb 18, 2011

Dear Colleagues,

We invite you to join us for our one-week workshops in June 2011. As NEH Summer Scholars at the “American History through the Eyes of a California Family” workshop, you will use the artifacts and archival sources of both the Dominguez Rancho Adobe Museum and CSU Dominguez Hills Special Collections to trace the Domingue...See More

by hehe

Feb 18, 2011

All the Dems fled the state and staying in five star hotels instead of doing the job they are paid to do. They were elected to vote and they have the right to vote no. They do not have the right to flee from the job they are paid to do and should be fired for it.

And by the way, who do you think is paying for their five star hotels and mea...See More

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They voed him in but... Yes they voted him but now that the Trojan horse has been exposed Voila. The first one comes. FIGHT on WISCONSIN Here comes the first of many. I love it. Keep fighting WISCONSIN.

Law Enforcement Association is the latest to back away from their Walker support. ... the endorsement of the Wisconsin Trooper's Association for Gov. Scott Walke...See More

Feb 20, 2011

cole On 2/20/11, David wrote: > 65%? The poll on election day shows the wisconsin people support > this. That is the only poll that matters

Really? Do you really believe that people don't change their minds? Or that they can't disagree with someone they support in general on one particular issue? Or is life really that black and white in ...See More

Feb 21, 2011

by Teacher

Feb 19, 2011

After having taught in a union state for some years, my family transferred to a non-union state. We do not have the right to collective bargaining, if you can believe that. I can't even begin to tell you how unfairly teachers and those who work in the education system can be treated. At times, basic rights are violated. Without going into detail ab...See More

California teacher here supporting WI unions.

by It's nothing but UNION busting with KOCH bros. nfm

Feb 20, 2011

stand tall WI!!!!!!!! Proud of you and proud that you are taking a stand. If we don't stand for something we fall.

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