My Diplomatic (maroon) Passport application in WASHDC today. Any group information on how the transfer works from US Dept of Agriculture US Forest Service Teacher to DoDEA Teacher Japan?. US OPM says the process is seamless and I will not lose any duty days between the two positions.
If you're working for the USDA in Washington DC until 4,00pm on Tuesday, and then you start working for the DEA in Baltimore at 8.00am on Wednesday, then yes, the OPM is correct, and you will not lose any duty days.
But the real world doesn't work like that.
Your first duty day in DoDEA won't be until AFTER you hit the ground in Japan. For example if your plane arrives in Japan on Saturday, then your first duty day (and first actual paid day of employment) would probably be the following Monday.
The question that only you and/or the Forest Service can answer is when is your last duty day in the Forestry Service? (I don't think the FS will count you flying economy over the Pacific as a duty day.)
Once you know your last duty day in the FS, and your first duty in DoDEA, then a quick glance at the calendar can tell you how many "in-between days" you will have.
These are not lost duty days, because you were not at work, so nothing got lost. They were just "in-between days" for which you earned no salary. (Ouch.)
There may be a possible loophole. The FS may allow you to burn leave days on your way out the door. This may minimize the pain of "in-between days".
I'm interested in how you are counting the days. Will it be seamless? Or will there be a bunch of in-between days?
Wondering if anyone has heard anything about the transfer round in 2022? It would be nice to have one... I heard that local hires (e.g. hired in Korea) can no longer pick up LQA after they move to a new installation. (e.g. move from Korea to UK) unless they are excessed. Is that right? Thanks!
The old established transfer program was clear, open and transparent.
It wasn't perfect, but it had agreed-upon rules that were negotiated with the union, and the teachers knew the rules of the game, and teachers could attempt to plan their career based on those rules.. And the rules for that process gave consideration to things such as type of location (hardship), time at location, seniority, and teaching certs.
It seems wrong to use the term "Transfer Program" now.
What exists now is a top down process which doesn't involve the union or the majority of the teachers.
How is that different from a management directed transfer? It's not, right?
Hi all. I teach at Ankara EHS. Anyone know if DoDEA teachers get that 2.7% raise for federal employees? I'm assuming we do but I can't find confirmation anywhere. Cheers.
If you have to leave your current teaching job and PCS with your partner, is it called "quitting" or just "leave without pay?" How does the "leave without pay" work actually? Is it like you are still under the HR radar, or it does not really help with hiring process? Thanks?
hahaNot sure about all of the details. You can resign, or you can request LWOP. There are supposed to be some benefits to going LWOP as far as being rehirable, but I don't really know the logistics of it.
You don't need anyone's permission to quit. (See TikTok for videos on how to quit in style.)
Local hires often take LWOP when their spouse makes a PCS. It's not super useful in these situations. I think of it more as a lottery ticket. It may turn out to be useful in the 12 months if the spouse gets new orders, or if the spouse's employment status changes.
But after 12 months the lottery ticket expires and loses it's value.
Hello all. My wife recently received a conditional offer and we're going through the process now, yay! I did however come across the so-called "5 year rule" for DoD employees, and I had never heard that before. Is it really hard to stay at your school past 5 years?
As far as I know, DoDEA teachers have never been subject to the 5 year rule. We have the opposite problem in that it is very difficult to NOT stay at your school, should you wish a change of scenery.
IsItFriday?The 5 year rule does not apply to DoDEA teachers.
And while the conditional offer may refer to a one year tour or a two year tour, DoDEA teachers do not have tours or a DEROS, and currently there is no process in place for transferring to another location.
You should plan on staying in that location for ten years.
Are all regular teaching position openings going through EAS first and only go on USAJOBS if they can't be filled there or are there circumstances where they get posted on USAJOBS right away?
IcanreadWell, I'm quite curious, Dr. Fant! How did you find out about the position? USAjobs? Another site? This is brand new info for me. Also… congrats!!!
Has anyone ever heard of a teacher's spouse getting a work visa in an overseas location while the teacher works with DODEA? There is a possibility that this would be the only way the spouse could earn an income, if there was no position available on base. I wasn't sure what the rules are for a spouse as far as earning an income overseas. Thanks!
I saw a discussion on here a long time ago, but am wondering how many credits are needed to qualify for going becoming an administrator. I have a masters degree (not in admin) plus some additional credits. Thank you
Has anyone PCSed to Iwakuni with pets recently during Covid? Anyone PCSed to Iwakuni recently and had issues with finding base housing and temp lodging? I'm trying to figure out how easy it will be to bring my pets with the 180 day quarantine required in Japan and Covid restrictions. Thanks to anyone who can provide information.
IcanreadAs I drink my coffee this morning, I will share some of my story. I first found out about Dodea after I had been teaching for about 12 years. A co-worker told me about a friend who had taught in Korea for Dodea, and it intrigued me, as I am always up for adventures. So I applied for elementary positions, received a handful of referrals, and kept ad...See MoreAs I drink my coffee this morning, I will share some of my story. I first found out about Dodea after I had been teaching for about 12 years. A co-worker told me about a friend who had taught in Korea for Dodea, and it intrigued me, as I am always up for adventures. So I applied for elementary positions, received a handful of referrals, and kept adding certs (on a whim I added Spanish which I had 24 credits in from college 20 years prior but had never taught and wasn't even fluent in). Lo and behold, I got a referral to teach elementary Spanish, interviewed (over 2 months after the referral), was honest about not being fluent, and I got the job offer. Two months later, my family and I were on the ground in Japan, and I was teaching Spanish to elementary students. I did that for a year and a half until the program was terminated. Then I was moved to another school in the same area and was a reading specialist for a year. The population of that school went down, and I was moved to another local school where I was supposed to teach kindergarten (but was detailed to teach for the virtual school for a semester). Then I taught 2nd grade in person and finally moved to a brand new school on the same base where I was a half and half position (reading specialist and gifted/AAPS). While overseas, I also got my masters and started applying for ISS positions (similar to the role of an instructional coach), and after a year of referrals/interviews, I was offered a position as an ISS stateside and have been here for a couple months, and so far I absolutely love my job (building relationships with teachers, visiting classes and interacting with students, supporting and encouraging teachers, and more). I taught at 5 schools in 3 ½ years so it's been a crazy adventure for me!
If you're working for the USDA in Washington DC until 4,00pm on Tuesday, and then you start working for the DEA in Baltimore at 8.00am on Wednesday, then yes, the OPM is correct, and you will not lose any duty days.
But the real world doesn't work like that.
Your first duty day in DoDEA won't be u...See More