Re: To Sheila

    Carolyn, I don't think I ever saw your post, but I'm glad we agree.

    On 11/01/09, Carolyn wrote:
    > I guess you're also not able to understand what my post actually says,
    > either.
    > I BELIEVE I just said EXACTLY what you just said.
    > On 11/01/09, Sheila wrote:
    >> Sorry your school is not trained properly on how to use AR and you
    >> have not taken the initiative to understand it yourself. You can
    >> read novels in class AND take AR tests as I do. Right now my class
    >> is reading Number the Stars. You can watch a movie too, but you
    >> will more than likely get no more than 40% of the questions right
    >> (WHICH RESULTS IN 0 AR POINTS)since the people at AR know that and
    >> make the questions about things that WEREN'T in the movie! No need
    >> to respond. I am not interested in hearing anymore about this.
    >> On 10/31/09,
    >> The RIGHT Carolyn wrote:
    >>> I don't "HATE" it, I just don't see how it improves reading
    >>> comprehension or motivation.
    >>> Ironically, I just received an email from a parent upset with me
    >>> over the AR report her child is getting. As a result of her
    >>> student not "understanding" he was supposed to do AR this past
    >>> quarter, he received a "not meeting goals" on his report card.
    >>> Now, I READILY admit I did NOT tell him he was to be doing AR. I
    >>> assumed he already knew what it was. See, that's the problem I am
    >>> having. The person who is compiling the data and basically
    >>> running the system did not inform me that I was actually "in
    >>> charge" of the students reaching their goals. Hence, a new
    >>> student to the school who didn't know a darn thing about AR went
    >>> the entire quarter clueless about it (as was I)
    >>> That's the reason why I do not like the way this system is set
    >>> up. We are reading a novel in class and the students are fully
    >>> comprehending this novel. THAT is more accurate of a
    >>> comprehension measurement to me, as a teacher, than a software
    >>> program with 22 questions in it. I don't understand how a student
    >>> who gets an A from me in regards to the standard "demonstrates
    >>> literal comprehension" in MY class, can fail that on an AR test.
    >>> Does this make sense?
    >>> I also had a student who took NUMEROUS AR tests, and failed MOST
    >>> of them. So, she's not comprehending them either. Is it MY fault
    >>> she's not comprehending books she's read independently? No, it is
    >>> not. Is it my job to analyze the data and "fix" this problem?
    >>> Yes, it is. Is that fair? No, it is not.
    >>> I have been given NO guidance, except for my co teacher who went
    >>> over the reports with me, on AR this past Friday. I have tried
    >>> numerous times to access the information, but cannot even sign on
    >>> to the system. Yet, I am being expected to monitor this and fix
    >>> issues on books I haven't read myself? THAT is my overall issue I
    >>> have with this.
    >>> By the way, the parent told me that her child told her that a lot
    >>> of the kids in my school are going to see the movie versions of
    >>> the book, then taking AR tests for points. Since I consider this
    >>> cheating, I consider this evidence that AR is not an accurate way
    >>> to measure reading achievement. I can safely bet that many, many
    >>> students across the country are doing that very same thing --
    >>> cheating by seeing the movie just for the sake of wracking up
    >>> their point totals.
    >>> Just my thoughts.
    >>> On 9/28/09, Deb ms/IA wrote:
    >>>> This was addressed to Carolyn it wasn't from Carolyn.
    >>>> Carolyn has torn apart AR since her first post. Her school
    >>>> is implementing AR incorrectly and Carolyn hates AR with a
    >>>> passion and states that quiet often on this board. Instead
    >>>> of making changes and using AR properly she just complains.
    >>>> Sorry for the confusion on your part. It was meant to
    >>>> address Carolyn and the fact I don't get all her whining.
    >>>> Deb ms/IA
    >>>>>> On 9/26/09, I don't get you Carolyn wrote:
    >>>>>>> 60 percent on any work isn't passing work in some
    >>>>>>> grading scales. It doesn't matter if its a book
    >>>>>>> talk on a book or any type of project on a book 60
    >>>>>>> percent isn't that great.
    >>>>>>> Your ignorance/intolerance/anger with AR is
    >>>>>>> showing. AR is not all about numbers nor is it
    >>>>>>> about punishing kids. Please, you and your school
    >>>>>>> need training on how to properly run AR. When you
    >>>>>>> get that training, implement that training then
    >>>>>>> come back and issue your opinions on AR. Until then
    >>>>>>> stop your whining and complaining. Do something
    >>>>>>> about the problem!
    >>>>>>> On 9/26/09, Carolyn wrote:
    >>>>>>>> I think focusing on points instead of reading
    >>>>>>>> enjoyment and comprehension is the wrong way to
    >>>>>>>> look at learning. That makes it all about a
    >>>>>>>> number to obtain, not the material from the book.
    >>>>>>>> Kids at my school get punished for not making
    >>>>>>>> their goals. This is not a motivating factor,
    >>>>>>>> it's a punitive fear of failure.
    >>>>>>>> I still don't get the whole point of AR. A book
    >>>>>>>> is better understood by talking about it, not by
    >>>>>>>> taking multiple choice tests. Ugh.