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Rude

by help...how to handle

Oct 11, 2010

How do you handle the general rude behavior of students?

After teaching in a culturally diverse classroom I decided that some things will just come across as rude (when it is not intended). However, frequently I find high school students and now adult learners (for profit and other) to be quite rude intentionally. It seems like it generally comes from the students who are on the lower end of the spectum of not taking responsibility for their own learning.

For example, I had an adult student make an age related slur directed about me to fellow students. This was done after he became dissatified with his grade. He even stomped out of the classroom at one point. He had been generally positive with his communication to me. Now he is generally positive in his communication.

Another example, was an adult student ranting about how she can not understand anything I am saying. She uses her laptop computer during class regularly (surfing and such). I suggested that sh...See More

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Leah This was done after he became dissatified with his grade.

The above reason is part of it, but I blame the media, movies, TV, etc. for modeling "in your face" behaviors.

I have written an article for teachers of young children found below. Manners do not seem to be taught today - one parent homes, two parents working, parents on ...See More

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Sara On 10/11/10, help...how to handle wrote: > How do you handle the general rude behavior of students?

Well if it was all of them that would be one thing but your post suggests it's only a few and the few who get angry.

Students especially adults who struggle to learn get frustrated. It's a fact - not everyone is bright nor is eve...See MoreOn 10/11/10, help...how to handle wrote: > How do you handle the general rude behavior of students?

Well if it was all of them that would be one thing but your post suggests it's only a few and the few who get angry.

Students especially adults who struggle to learn get frustrated. It's a fact - not everyone is bright nor is everyone well-equipped to do well in school. As teachers, we like to pretend that everyone can do well but it's just not so.

Then we also like to say well, it's their fault etc. etc but why would we expect them to be happy about their failure? Particularly given what an outspoken society we've become? Anger seems to abound and can come out of nowhere. People who have a history of failure either become depressed and withdrawn or angry and rude.

Your students didn't become depressed and withdrawn though they still might. Instead they have enough energy left to become angry and rude when very disappointed.

Are you teaching CC? President Clinton did no one a favor when he suggested that everyone should go to college because the power that is simply did not make everyone equipped to do well in the tasks of school.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the frying pan is some old saying. If you're going to teach, you're going to have some students who will get angry and few Americans these days hold their tonges in genteel fashion - usually they let fly with a few choice words. > And yes it's likely to come from the students who got Cs and Ds - what do we expect? That's only logical.

I find teaching CC these days means I have to tolerate excessive absenteeism and then I have to tolerate excessive excuses about it. It's tiresome. Likely neither you nor I are spring chickens anymore and likely that's why you find the occasional rudeness so disturbing and why I find the excuses so tiresome.

If we're going to keep teaching, you're going to have to tolerate the occasional rude remark (look wounded and say "I am that old but I still have feelings and I'm sorry that grade has given you angry feelings) and I'm going to have to tolerate "I had a family funeral - in Las Vegas - that lasted a week that just happened to coincide with my childrens' spring break. Sorry I couldn't come to class last week." >> > Another example, was an adult student ranting about how she > can not understand anything I am saying. She uses her > laptop computer during class regularly (surfing and such). > I suggested that she might try turning off her computer and > sitting in the front of the classroom. Ask questions if you > do not understand, I continued. > > Generally the majority of the comments I'm getting on my > teaching if very positive. > > Is seems that there is a large portion of our student > population that likes to get in your face. > > Do you ignore rude offensive behavior or what? > > I show kindness. I give them respect. I grade their > papers on time. > > Why am I getting this rude and/or offensive behavior from a > few of my students? > > Is this normal?

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Prof. Howard Seeman On 10/11/10, help...how to handle wrote: > How do you handle the general rude behavior of students? > > After teaching in a culturally diverse classroom I decided > that some things will just come across as rude (when it is > not intended). However, frequently I find high school > students and now adult learners (for profit and ot...See MoreOn 10/11/10, help...how to handle wrote: > How do you handle the general rude behavior of students? > > After teaching in a culturally diverse classroom I decided > that some things will just come across as rude (when it is > not intended). However, frequently I find high school > students and now adult learners (for profit and other) to > be quite rude intentionally. It seems like it generally > comes from the students who are on the lower end of the > spectum of not taking responsibility for their own > learning. > > For example, I had an adult student make an age related > slur directed about me to fellow students. This was done > after he became dissatified with his grade. He even > stomped out of the classroom at one point. He had been > generally positive with his communication to me. Now he is > generally positive in his communication. > > Another example, was an adult student ranting about how she > can not understand anything I am saying. She uses her > laptop computer during class regularly (surfing and such). > I suggested that she might try turning off her computer and > sitting in the front of the classroom. Ask questions if you > do not understand, I continued. > > Generally the majority of the comments I'm getting on my > teaching if very positive. > > Is seems that there is a large portion of our student > population that likes to get in your face. > > Do you ignore rude offensive behavior or what? > > I show kindness. I give them respect. I grade their > papers on time. > > Why am I getting this rude and/or offensive behavior from a > few of my students? > > Is this normal? YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE CAUSES.

I think that this can be helpful to you: The book and Training Video: PREVENTING Classroom Discipline Problems

If you can get this book and video: [they are in many libraries, so you don't have to buy them] email me and I can refer you to the sections of the book and video [that demonstrates the effective vs. the ineffective teacher] that can help you.

If your library does not have them, you can get them at:

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that are also used at this online course: [link removed]

See: Reviews at: [link removed]

If you cannot get the book or video, email me anyway, and I will try to help.

Best regards,

Howard

Howard Seeman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, City Univ. of New York

Prof. Seeman [email removed]

Oct 11, 2010

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