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Where is Jesse now?

by Tim Finnegan

Jan 15, 2018

Interesting...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2016/08/31/jesse-jackson-once-sang-donald-trumps-praises/amp/

Jesse Jackson once sang Donald Trump’s praises

The Rev. Jesse Jackson once praised Donald Trump for being a “friend” who embraced “the under-served communities.” “We need your building skills, your gusto . . . for the people on Wall Street to r…

New York Post | nypost.com

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Who controls the "deep state"

by Bob R/CA

Jan 2, 2018

...if not Trump? Obama? The Illuminati?

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Long Time Lurker Perhaps a nonsensical answer is what is needed to add a little levity in the nonsensical environment that is politics today. My government and those closest to the president are creating a nonsensical environment. There is nothing deep about that.

I really haven't concerned myself with deep state theories. I don't think these theories are...See More

Jan 5, 2018

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T.E.C. - Iowa I cannot disagree with the comment "The US runs on apathy." However, I would add "The US runs on fear!" The government played the "fear card" after 9/11, and Americans, the cowards that they are, fell for it - hook, line, and sinker.

Yet, regarding the deep state, some of it is controlled by philosophy. Those in government only allow other...See More

Jan 6, 2018

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Meltdown

by Chalky

Jan 3, 2018

Looks like Bannon's comments hit a nerve.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-attorney-sends-bannon-cease-desist-letter-disparaging/story?id=52128555

Trump attorney sends Bannon cease and desist letter over 'disparaging' comments

Lawyers on behalf of President Donald Trump sent a letter Wednesday night to former White House Chief Strategist Stephen Bannon demanding he refrain from making disparaging comments against the president and his family. The letter, comes after excerpts fr

ABC News | abcnews.go.com

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That voter fraud commission?

by Chalky

Jan 3, 2018

Dissolved.

He backed down. Ha!

This is likely to get lost in the shuffle of other breaking news this week

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-presidential-advisory-commission-election-integrity/

Statement by the Press Secretary on the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Int...

Despite substantial evidence of voter fraud, many states have refused to provide the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity with basic information relevant to its inquiry. Rather than engage in endless legal battles at taxpayer expense,

The White House | whitehouse.gov

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Fusion GPS finally speaks publicly

by Chalky

Jan 2, 2018

"Today, amid a growing criminal inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, congressional Republicans are again chasing rabbits. We know because we're their favorite quarry.

In the year since the publication of the so-called Steele dossier — the collection of intelligence reports we commissioned about Donald Trump's ties to Russi...See More"Today, amid a growing criminal inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, congressional Republicans are again chasing rabbits. We know because we're their favorite quarry.

In the year since the publication of the so-called Steele dossier — the collection of intelligence reports we commissioned about Donald Trump's ties to Russia — the president has repeatedly attacked us on Twitter. His allies in Congress have dug through our bank records and sought to tarnish our firm to punish us for highlighting his links to Russia. Conservative news outlets and even our former employer, The Wall Street Journal, have spun a succession of mendacious conspiracy theories about our motives and backers.

We are happy to correct the record. In fact, we already have.

Three congressional committees have heard over 21 hours of testimony from our firm, Fusion GPS. In those sessions, we toppled the far right's conspiracy theories and explained how The Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton campaign — the Republican and Democratic funders of our Trump research — separately came to hire us in the first place.

We walked investigators through our yearlong effort to decipher Mr. Trump's complex business past, of which the Steele dossier is but one chapter. And we handed over our relevant bank records — while drawing the line at a fishing expedition for the records of companies we work for that have nothing to do with the Trump case.

Republicans have refused to release full transcripts of our firm's testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. It's time to share what our company told investigators.

We don't believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.'s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp."

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html?referer=

The Republicans’ Fake Investigations

The attack on our firm, Fusion GPS, is a diversionary tactic by Republicans who don’t want to investigate Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

Chalky Did the FBI have a mole inside the Trump campaign?

From the article linked in the previous post: "We don't believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.'s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports ...See More

Jan 2, 2018

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Bob R/CA That source would appear to be Papadopoulos.

Jan 3, 2018

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It wasn't the dossier that spurred the FBI investigation

by Chalky

Dec 30, 2017

WASHINGTON — During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia's top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Mos...See More

How the Russia Inquiry Began: A Campaign Aide, Drinks and Talk of Political Dirt

George Papadopoulos, a Trump foreign policy adviser, was the improbable match that set off a blaze that has consumed the first year of the Trump administration.

Bob R/CA Someone's going to jail. And I don't mean this nobody....

Dec 30, 2017

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Chalky I've read since this conspiracy was first reported that Five Eyes would bring the entire Trump Tower gang down.

Dec 30, 2017

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"Believe me!"

by Bob R/CA

Dec 29, 2017

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSBNjuRUQAAjfbq.jpg

Chalky He lies about everything. How do his supporters believe *anything* he says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQMm6PcMIL0

Donald Trump said he wouldn't have time to play golf as president.

âI would rarely leave the White House because thereâs so much work to be done,â Trump told a reporter in 2015. âI would not be a president who took vacations...

YouTube | youtube.com

Dec 29, 2017

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You Can't Go Back - Only Forward!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Dec 28, 2017

More and more, I learn that going back to old policies would be impossible.

For example, economist Richard Wolff says we cannot go back to deporting every illegal, because it would result in a failed state at our southern border - costing us much more. This does not mean open borders. Clearly, many Americans want their citizenship to have ...See MoreMore and more, I learn that going back to old policies would be impossible.

For example, economist Richard Wolff says we cannot go back to deporting every illegal, because it would result in a failed state at our southern border - costing us much more. This does not mean open borders. Clearly, many Americans want their citizenship to have more legal significance than an open border policy provides.

Now, I find economist Yanis Varoufakis (Greek) saying we cannot go back to the New Deal of the past. Add to this, Richard Wolff claims if we did, the rich would undo the new "New Deal" in 35 years rather than the 70 years it took this time.

Although not mention as a factor, I notice the New Deal was limited to workers. That would not be acceptable in today's world.

(Quote from Varoufakis' - edited from spoken word)

In the twentieth century, we had the stabilization and civilization of capitalism through the rise of social democracies (Europe) and the New Deal (US). Unfortunately, the paradigm is dead.

The New Deal was about two things. First, it was redistribution within waged labor. A kind of insurance for the working class - for example: unemployment insurance, union pensions, and more

The second dimension was distribution between capital and labor - for example: minimum wage, progessive tax system, and collective bargaining laws.

(Snip)

The first plank is not possible because wages have stagnated to such an extent that it is impossible for the working class to insure itself. And the second plank, the redistribution between capital and labor, is increasingly impossible for two reasons. First, the politics! (Snip) Redistribution requires political governance, and Europe and the United States are ungovernable - utterly and completely ungovernable.

The second, in science fiction terms, is called "the rise of the machines." Artificial intelligence will soon consume all repetitive work and all algorithmic work - especially the moment the machines pass the "Turing Test." Once we have that we will have a massive displacement effect which, for the first time, will overwhelm the creation (of jobs).

(End quote)

Clearly, there is no going back!

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