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Desperate!

by Jen

Nov 3, 2008

I just took over for a teacher and the class is out of control. The previous teacher used the stop light. It doesn't work. The kids don't listen to any adult and have no respect.

I am working with the parents of the unruly children but progress is slow. I just started a week ago. I am looking for advice on how to gain control two months into the school year. I can't teach or get through what I need to and I work in a Reading First School.

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Jen I did find a new classroom management system that seems to be working. There are good and bad days but it seems to get the kids to listen.

Thanks!

On 11/24/08, Ellie Mae wrote: > On 11/04/08, Tessa- FL wrote: >> On 11/03/08, Jen wrote: >>> Desperate, I think you need to start all over and have your > own "firs...See More

Nov 28, 2008

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Kerry Mouse Hi Jen, I am intested, what new systen are you using? I like the ideas of positive reinforcement and redefining your rules. Also do you find the reading first classroom has effect on the kids positive or negative? I am in a reading first class too.I find the constant reassessment add to the classroom problems.

Kerry On 11/28/08, Jen wrote:...See More

Dec 6, 2008

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Jen I find that reading first has a negative effect on students.What little fun that could be squeezed into the school day is officially out? Everything is math, reading or writing; Pressure to perform and raise scores in a district that does not have their curriculum well developed with placing demands on teachers all at once instead of gradually. ...See MoreI find that reading first has a negative effect on students.What little fun that could be squeezed into the school day is officially out? Everything is math, reading or writing; Pressure to perform and raise scores in a district that does not have their curriculum well developed with placing demands on teachers all at once instead of gradually.

As a new teacher, I wouldn't recommend a priority district to teach in but I am thankful I have a job.

For my management system, it is a modification of the stop light. First it is verbal warning then they are moved to 1 mistake- Oops. If it happens again they get moved to Think again- Another OOps. Then they get a time-out in another classroom. The last two steps are Phone call home and Principal.

I also let students move back if they make good choices. I give good behavior tickets out and do a raffle for small prizes on fridays.

Is my system working? Yes and No. I have 3 boys who are explosive with anger. They are like a bomb waiting to explode with anger. These kids interfere with teaching and the behavior system.

On 12/06/08, Kerry Mouse wrote: > Hi Jen, > I am intested, what new systen are you using? I like the ideas of > positive reinforcement and redefining your rules. Also do you find > the reading first classroom has effect on the kids positive or > negative? I am in a reading first class too.I find the constant > reassessment add to the classroom problems. > > Kerry > On 11/28/08, Jen wrote: >> I did find a new classroom management system that seems to be >> working. There are good and bad days but it seems to get the kids >> to listen. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> On 11/24/08, Ellie Mae wrote: >>> On 11/04/08, Tessa- FL wrote: >>>> On 11/03/08, Jen wrote: >>>>> Desperate, I think you need to start all over and have your >>> own "first day of school". Define your procedures, discuss >>> rules, consequences(positive and negative). How is your >>> administration? Are they supportive? Good luck!! Be patient, >>> kids always test to see if the teacher means what she says! >>> >>> >>> just took over for a teacher and the class is out of >>>>> control. The previous teacher used the stop light. It >>>>> doesn't work. The kids don't listen to any adult and have >>>>> no respect. >>>>> >>>>> I am working with the parents of the unruly children but >>>>> progress is slow. I just started a week ago. I am looking >>>>> for advice on how to gain control two months into the >>>>> school year. I can't teach or get through what I need to >>>>> and I work in a Reading First School. >>>> >>>> These kids that come from the gutter seem to be determined >>>> to stay there. They don't know any better. Does your >>>> district have a clasroom management class you can take? I >>>> keep my kids focused on the positives: team points that work >>>> toward a reward they choose. Once they chose popcorn as a >>>> reward. It's sad to see them working so hard for a simple >>>> handful of popcorn (some of my kids had never had it) but >>>> it's a big deal to them. I've had great luck with that. But >>>> to teach class their own. Good luck.

Dec 13, 2008

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CathyO Your system of discipline seems pretty good. I am a sub. I have seen different systems. Actually, reading first seems pretty good to me. On 12/13/08, Jen wrote:

> I find that reading first has a negative effect on students.What little > fun that could be squeezed into the school day is officially out? > Everything is math, reading...See MoreYour system of discipline seems pretty good. I am a sub. I have seen different systems. Actually, reading first seems pretty good to me. On 12/13/08, Jen wrote:

> I find that reading first has a negative effect on students.What little > fun that could be squeezed into the school day is officially out? > Everything is math, reading or writing; Pressure to perform and raise > scores in a district that does not have their curriculum well developed > with placing demands on teachers all at once instead of gradually. > > As a new teacher, I wouldn't recommend a priority district to teach in > but I am thankful I have a job. > > For my management system, it is a modification of the stop light. > First it is verbal warning then they are moved to 1 mistake- Oops. If it > happens again they get moved to Think again- Another OOps. Then they get > a time-out in another classroom. The last two steps are Phone call home > and Principal. > > I also let students move back if they make good choices. I give good > behavior tickets out and do a raffle for small prizes on fridays. > > Is my system working? Yes and No. I have 3 boys who are explosive with > anger. They are like a bomb waiting to explode with anger. These kids > interfere with teaching and the behavior system. > > > On 12/06/08, Kerry Mouse wrote: >> Hi Jen, >> I am intested, what new systen are you using? I like the ideas of >> positive reinforcement and redefining your rules. Also do you find >> the reading first classroom has effect on the kids positive or >> negative? I am in a reading first class too.I find the constant >> reassessment add to the classroom problems. >> >> Kerry >> On 11/28/08, Jen wrote: >>> I did find a new classroom management system that seems to be >>> working. There are good and bad days but it seems to get the kids >>> to listen. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> On 11/24/08, Ellie Mae wrote: >>>> On 11/04/08, Tessa- FL wrote: >>>>> On 11/03/08, Jen wrote: >>>>>> Desperate, I think you need to start all over and have your >>>> own "first day of school". Define your procedures, discuss >>>> rules, consequences(positive and negative). How is your >>>> administration? Are they supportive? Good luck!! Be patient, >>>> kids always test to see if the teacher means what she says! >>>> >>>> >>>> just took over for a teacher and the class is out of >>>>>> control. The previous teacher used the stop light. It >>>>>> doesn't work. The kids don't listen to any adult and have >>>>>> no respect. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am working with the parents of the unruly children but >>>>>> progress is slow. I just started a week ago. I am looking >>>>>> for advice on how to gain control two months into the >>>>>> school year. I can't teach or get through what I need to >>>>>> and I work in a Reading First School. >>>>> >>>>> These kids that come from the gutter seem to be determined >>>>> to stay there. They don't know any better. Does your >>>>> district have a clasroom management class you can take? I >>>>> keep my kids focused on the positives: team points that work >>>>> toward a reward they choose. Once they chose popcorn as a >>>>> reward. It's sad to see them working so hard for a simple >>>>> handful of popcorn (some of my kids had never had it) but >>>>> it's a big deal to them. I've had great luck with that. But >>>>> to teach class their own. Good luck.

Dec 20, 2008

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Jen Thank you for all the suggestions. My class is much better behaved now. I added star table points in addition to my management system. What this means is that the table who gets the most points at the end of the week for good listening gets a prize. Points can also be taken away if they are not on task or following directions. The kids seem to resp...See MoreThank you for all the suggestions. My class is much better behaved now. I added star table points in addition to my management system. What this means is that the table who gets the most points at the end of the week for good listening gets a prize. Points can also be taken away if they are not on task or following directions. The kids seem to respond to this idea.

On 12/20/08, CathyO wrote: > > Your system of discipline seems pretty good. I am a sub. I have seen > different systems. Actually, reading first seems pretty good to me. > On 12/13/08, Jen wrote: > >> I find that reading first has a negative effect on students.What little >> fun that could be squeezed into the school day is officially out? >> Everything is math, reading or writing; Pressure to perform and raise >> scores in a district that does not have their curriculum well developed >> with placing demands on teachers all at once instead of gradually. >> >> As a new teacher, I wouldn't recommend a priority district to teach in >> but I am thankful I have a job. >> >> For my management system, it is a modification of the stop light. >> First it is verbal warning then they are moved to 1 mistake- Oops. If it >> happens again they get moved to Think again- Another OOps. Then they get >> a time-out in another classroom. The last two steps are Phone call home >> and Principal. >> >> I also let students move back if they make good choices. I give good >> behavior tickets out and do a raffle for small prizes on fridays. >> >> Is my system working? Yes and No. I have 3 boys who are explosive with >> anger. They are like a bomb waiting to explode with anger. These kids >> interfere with teaching and the behavior system. >> >> >> On 12/06/08, Kerry Mouse wrote: >>> Hi Jen, >>> I am intested, what new systen are you using? I like the ideas of >>> positive reinforcement and redefining your rules. Also do you find >>> the reading first classroom has effect on the kids positive or >>> negative? I am in a reading first class too.I find the constant >>> reassessment add to the classroom problems. >>> >>> Kerry >>> On 11/28/08, Jen wrote: >>>> I did find a new classroom management system that seems to be >>>> working. There are good and bad days but it seems to get the kids >>>> to listen. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/24/08, Ellie Mae wrote: >>>>> On 11/04/08, Tessa- FL wrote: >>>>>> On 11/03/08, Jen wrote: >>>>>>> Desperate, I think you need to start all over and have your >>>>> own "first day of school". Define your procedures, discuss >>>>> rules, consequences(positive and negative). How is your >>>>> administration? Are they supportive? Good luck!! Be patient, >>>>> kids always test to see if the teacher means what she says! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> just took over for a teacher and the class is out of >>>>>>> control. The previous teacher used the stop light. It >>>>>>> doesn't work. The kids don't listen to any adult and have >>>>>>> no respect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am working with the parents of the unruly children but >>>>>>> progress is slow. I just started a week ago. I am looking >>>>>>> for advice on how to gain control two months into the >>>>>>> school year. I can't teach or get through what I need to >>>>>>> and I work in a Reading First School. >>>>>> >>>>>> These kids that come from the gutter seem to be determined >>>>>> to stay there. They don't know any better. Does your >>>>>> district have a clasroom management class you can take? I >>>>>> keep my kids focused on the positives: team points that work >>>>>> toward a reward they choose. Once they chose popcorn as a >>>>>> reward. It's sad to see them working so hard for a simple >>>>>> handful of popcorn (some of my kids had never had it) but >>>>>> it's a big deal to them. I've had great luck with that. But >>>>>> to teach class their own. Good luck.

Jan 18, 2009

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