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MAP assessment or other online assessment

by Heather

Apr 1, 2009

We are looking for a benchmark assessment to do with 2nd grade on up for RtI. We are currently are looking at AIMs Web and the MAP, Measures of Academic Progress. Does anyone use this? Any other ideas for us to look at? We do the DIBELS with the K-2, but we would like something more comprehensive with the older kids.

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Sid The MAP is the most inaccurate assessment I have ever encountered, I actually took the names of some children in one class, pulled them out w/o looking and got a more accurate ranking of them, closer to the DRA. One example was the child who was 2nd highest and the child that MAP said was lowest in first grade. I said it was wrong. Two years later,...See More

Apr 1, 2009

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Randy I completely agree. I teach older kids and it is Flawed. Yes, with a capital "F." Our district is in love with it for the same reasons. They want to show the public that we have our finger on the pulse of the kids' learning. What happened to giving formative assessments and REAL teaching? The computer score is now overriding teacher feedback and re...See MoreI completely agree. I teach older kids and it is Flawed. Yes, with a capital "F." Our district is in love with it for the same reasons. They want to show the public that we have our finger on the pulse of the kids' learning. What happened to giving formative assessments and REAL teaching? The computer score is now overriding teacher feedback and recommendations.

On 4/01/09, Sid wrote: > > The MAP is the most inaccurate assessment I have ever > encountered, I actually took the names of some children in one > class, pulled them out w/o looking and got a more accurate > ranking of them, closer to the DRA. One example was the child > who was 2nd highest and the child that MAP said was lowest in > first grade. I said it was wrong. Two years later, the kid > that MAP said was 2nd highest had a reading level at a DRA 5 > (two years below grade level) and was certified for spec ed. > The boy that was lowest? He was one of the highest readers in > 3rd. Also, the "Descartes" part tells you to do all kinds of > absurd things to do with the poor kids. For example, I saw a > 2nd grader who was a DRA B. This child was beginning > kindergarten, he didn't even know the difference between a > letter and a word, didn't have directionality either. > Descartes said that the teacher should work with him reading > short passages and gather inference from text! WTF? Another > one was for the child to read a short non fiction passage and > identify key words. Hey, this kid doesn't even know what a > word is! Administrators love it because they get a bunch of > numbers to toss about and they can say that they are > "Crunching the data". It is all garbage, there is a lot of MAP > that is not even in our grade standards. Even worse is when > they use it with kindergartens, kids that lack VMI to > manipulate the mouse. > > On 4/01/09, Heather wrote: >> We are looking for a benchmark assessment to do with 2nd >> grade on up for RtI. We are currently are looking at AIMs >> Web and the MAP, Measures of Academic Progress. Does >> anyone use this? Any other ideas for us to look at? We >> do the DIBELS with the K-2, but we would like something >> more comprehensive with the older kids.

Nov 4, 2009

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RF Hello Sid,

I read your comments with dismay because our district and state (Washington) have embraced MAPS. I am required to use it to select students for remedial reading, and the results I am getting from the first round of testing don't match my experience working with some of these kids. What is DRA?

RF

On 4/01/09,...See MoreHello Sid,

I read your comments with dismay because our district and state (Washington) have embraced MAPS. I am required to use it to select students for remedial reading, and the results I am getting from the first round of testing don't match my experience working with some of these kids. What is DRA?

RF

On 4/01/09, Sid wrote: > > The MAP is the most inaccurate assessment I have ever > encountered, I actually took the names of some children in one > class, pulled them out w/o looking and got a more accurate > ranking of them, closer to the DRA. One example was the child > who was 2nd highest and the child that MAP said was lowest in > first grade. I said it was wrong. Two years later, the kid > that MAP said was 2nd highest had a reading level at a DRA 5 > (two years below grade level) and was certified for spec ed. > The boy that was lowest? He was one of the highest readers in > 3rd. Also, the "Descartes" part tells you to do all kinds of > absurd things to do with the poor kids. For example, I saw a > 2nd grader who was a DRA B. This child was beginning > kindergarten, he didn't even know the difference between a > letter and a word, didn't have directionality either. > Descartes said that the teacher should work with him reading > short passages and gather inference from text! WTF? Another > one was for the child to read a short non fiction passage and > identify key words. Hey, this kid doesn't even know what a > word is! Administrators love it because they get a bunch of > numbers to toss about and they can say that they are > "Crunching the data". It is all garbage, there is a lot of MAP > that is not even in our grade standards. Even worse is when > they use it with kindergartens, kids that lack VMI to > manipulate the mouse. > > On 4/01/09, Heather wrote: >> We are looking for a benchmark assessment to do with 2nd >> grade on up for RtI. We are currently are looking at AIMs >> Web and the MAP, Measures of Academic Progress. Does >> anyone use this? Any other ideas for us to look at? We >> do the DIBELS with the K-2, but we would like something >> more comprehensive with the older kids.

Nov 7, 2009

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RF Lovely. I am required to use MAPS and I haven't liked what I've seen so far. I need to learn more about the assessment and the associated resources, but it doesn't look good. I was told that we could use the results to inform instruction, but what I have found so far is very vague. You work with older kids? Me too. I teach remedial reading in high ...See More

Nov 7, 2009

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SID On 11/07/09, RF wrote: > Hello Sid, > > I read your comments with dismay because our district and state > (Washington) have embraced MAPS. I am required to use it to > select students for remedial reading, and the results I am > getting from the first round of testing don't match my experience > working with some of these kids...See More

Dec 4, 2009

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