Re: Resign or go down as not rehired.

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Re: Resign or go down as not rehired.

by sped

Mar 26, 2011

Huh, can't reply on this board for some reason.

So, you've been asked to resign or you'll be terminated. This is a shame and I'm sorry. I personally don't like this tactic as an administrator.

See, I'm not an expert on unemployment, but here's the reasoning behind this. You're right when you say you can't get unemployment payments IF you resign... GENERALLY, but I've personally seen different. You can potentially win a protest through the unemployment office and still get benefits. Being forced to resign in lieu of termination actually qualifies one for unemployment.

However, here's the thing: You have to jump through a lot of hoops to get this. You will be turned down for unemployment, then you must protest and file an appeal. You'll probably be turned down again. Then, you need to appeal that and go to a hearing. You may win that one. I've seen it happen and know a number of people in this situation who have won and received unemployment.

Most of u...See MoreHuh, can't reply on this board for some reason.

So, you've been asked to resign or you'll be terminated. This is a shame and I'm sorry. I personally don't like this tactic as an administrator.

See, I'm not an expert on unemployment, but here's the reasoning behind this. You're right when you say you can't get unemployment payments IF you resign... GENERALLY, but I've personally seen different. You can potentially win a protest through the unemployment office and still get benefits. Being forced to resign in lieu of termination actually qualifies one for unemployment.

However, here's the thing: You have to jump through a lot of hoops to get this. You will be turned down for unemployment, then you must protest and file an appeal. You'll probably be turned down again. Then, you need to appeal that and go to a hearing. You may win that one. I've seen it happen and know a number of people in this situation who have won and received unemployment.

Most of us administrators know this, BUT we do this, or are directed to do this by our bosses, because we know that many people will just assume, as you have, that they absolutely can't get benefits and not even bother applying. Others will just stop after they're turned down once by unemployment. Few will go the full way to an appeals hearing, so the district saves money this way. I can't guarantee that you will get unemployment if you resign, but it could happen.

There was some assistance for COBRA from the government for those laid off. I'm not sure if that's still going with the stimulus ending. I know for a fact that resignations can't get that.

Also, as far as having to "check the box" that says you were terminated, in my district we also have, right next to that box, a question about being asked to resign. It's basically the same thing.

Despite appearances to the contrary, administrators aren't that naive. We look at an employment history, and see that you resigned a position with no other job lined up. Huh? I wonder why...? Well, we can put two-and-two together and I don't really make any distinction between being terminated and being asked to resign, unless there's something almost criminal involved where the individual is removed right away.

I have hired those who have been terminated in another district. I realize however, that the teacher job market is flooded, and any bad mark can be fatal.

My advice is to get as many references as you can, and apply, apply, apply. Extend your commute time to make yourself available to more jobs. Be willing to move if that's an option, and consider adding endorsements, but if you're considering taking more classes, consider retraining into something else other than teaching. The teaching job market is going to be bad for years to come.

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