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Statement of deficiency

by Gab

Oct 18, 2012

I got my statement of deficiency and it turns out that beside the tests I need to take 32 hours of Spanish, since my endorsement is in Spanish!! how can I take 32 hours in less than a year? what will happen if I pass the stipulated date? is there a way I can waive ths 32 hours? I am a native Spanish Speaker so I can pass any test, but there is such a test to avoid paying for this 32 hours??? Please Help!!!!!

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sped On 10/18/12, Gab wrote: > I got my statement of deficiency and it turns out that > beside the tests I need to take 32 hours of Spanish, since > my endorsement is in Spanish!! how can I take 32 hours in > less than a year? what will happen if I pass the stipulated > date? is there a way I can waive ths 32 hours? I am a > native Spa...See More

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Gab On 10/18/12, sped wrote: > On 10/18/12, Gab wrote: >> I got my statement of deficiency and it turns out that >> beside the tests I need to take 32 hours of Spanish, since >> my endorsement is in Spanish!! how can I take 32 hours in >> less than a year? what will happen if I pass the stipulated >> date? is there a wa...See MoreOn 10/18/12, sped wrote: > On 10/18/12, Gab wrote: >> I got my statement of deficiency and it turns out that >> beside the tests I need to take 32 hours of Spanish, since >> my endorsement is in Spanish!! how can I take 32 hours in >> less than a year? what will happen if I pass the stipulated >> date? is there a way I can waive ths 32 hours? I am a >> native Spanish Speaker so I can pass any test, but there is >> such a test to avoid paying for this 32 hours??? Please >> Help!!!!! > > You need to have college credits in the subject in question. > You can't become a Spanish teacher if you've never taken a > Spanish class in University. > > I believe there might be some emergency certs available to > bilingual Spanish speakers, but you would have to be qualified > to teach a specific subject. So, you could potentially get > certified as a bilingual Science teacher, if you have the > college credits required to teach Science. Same with the other > subjects, but you have to have some college credit hours in the > field. Beyond that, I believe you work on being fully > certified as a teacher while working on an emergency or > temporary certification. ESL/Bilingual is not my field, but I > believe something like this exists. You'll have to research > that further if it interests you.... > > I am fluent in English, and a native speaker, but that doesn't > qualify me to teach English. Most people born and raised in > America are fluent in English, but that doesn't make them > qualified English teachers. I have to have the equivalent of a > university major and pass the state test to be considered a > qualified English teacher. It is the same thing with Spanish. > A lot of people speak Spanish. That doesn't make them Spanish > teachers. You'll need to take the classes.

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Thanks for your answer. See, I do not have any problems taking the classes, the problem is the money and the time. I do not have the money to pay $100 or more per credit and even if I do, I have just until June 2013! that gives me just 7 months. Probably I should have explained that I already have a Spanish teaching certificate from Colorado; I went through the alternative teaching program. They waived my 32 Spanish credits because I have 10 years of experience teaching Spanish and I passed the placement test. So, that frustrates me because here in Illinois, they say there is not other way to do this... Anyways, I am new to this state, so I need all the help I can get to go through this. If you know of anyway I can get this credits asap I will appreciate it!

Oct 19, 2012

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sped On 10/19/12, Gab wrote: ----------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Thanks for your answer. See, I do not have any problems taking > the classes, the problem is the money and the time. I do not > have the money to pay $100 or more per credit and even if I do, > I have just until June 2013!

Wh...See MoreOn 10/19/12, Gab wrote: ----------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Thanks for your answer. See, I do not have any problems taking > the classes, the problem is the money and the time. I do not > have the money to pay $100 or more per credit and even if I do, > I have just until June 2013!

Why until June 2013? If its because the deficiency statement expires, that simply means that you must pay another application fee. This is a relatively small expense compared to the cash you will have to lay out to take a new college major.

> Probably I should have explained that I already have a Spanish > teaching certificate from Colorado; I went through the > alternative teaching program. They waived my 32 Spanish credits > because I have 10 years of experience teaching Spanish and I > passed the placement test. So, that frustrates me because here in Illinois, they say there is not other way to do this...

Yeah. Illinois really doesn't do reciprocity. Technically they do, but not like other states. For instance, a long time ago, I moved here from Michigan. I had earned my degree and teaching certificate there, though I never worked there as a teacher. Strangely, I had to take a middle school class if I wanted to teach grades 6-8, despite the fact that my Michigan certification was K-12 and we were supposed to have reciprocity. So, I took it and it wasn't an issue because my first year was at a high school

I can't see ISBE waiving all, or nearly all credit hours in a major. Its just not written into Illinois School Code.

> Anyways, I am new to this state, so I need all the help I can > get to go through this. If you know of anyway I can get this > credits asap I will appreciate it!

32 credit hours would be the equivalent of one year full time undergraduate study. Since we're in October already, you really only have one semester, maybe two if you find a college that has a really short Spring/Summer semester. Even if you aren't working and dedicate yourself fully to this, I just don't see anyone completing 32 credits in one semester.

There are accredited universities out there that offer online or correspondence classes that will count. You can complete some of them at your own pace, which in your case can be very fast. Unfortunately, a quick google search doesn't find many Spanish classes online. Brigham Young has one Spanish Lit course for 3 credits. University of North Dakota Independent study has a couple, but I don't know if you want to take Spanish 101 and learn to count in Spanish again. University of Phoenix has some content area courses, but it doesn't look like they have much Spanish available. The credits don't all have to be from the same university. You can search for some others, but again: June 2013 just doesn't seem possible to finish 10-11 classes.

Now, you must have a college degree of some sort. Have you looked at your transcripts and tried to figure out a teaching major that you might be able to put together? For instance, you may have taken a number of social sciences: history, psychology, poly sci, etc. (social studies is not a teaching field that is in demand at all in Illinois, but at least you would have a teaching certificate and you could add Spanish later). Or, you might have enough English, Bio, Chem, computers or math credits to get close to a teaching major there. You could then take a few classes, maybe via correspondence, and get an endorsement in another subject.

Now, luckily for you, you aren't totally shut out of teaching if you don't have another major. I also looked up the whole bilingual certification thing. Its called a Type 29 "transitional" teaching certificate. It is basically for people with a bachelor's degree in any subject who speak Spanish (and a couple of other languages, but mostly Spanish). So, you take a test to prove that you can speak Spanish, and boom, you're a bilingual teacher. You just have to take several courses over the next six years to get your full teaching certificate. Possibly similar to what you did in Colorado. However, you won't be teaching Spanish I to English speakers anymore. You'll be teaching native Spanish speakers core academics. From what I know, the bilingual/ ESL departments get a lot of leeway when it comes to "highly qualified" requirements, just like we do in the special ed department, so you could find yourself teaching any and all core content classes. If you want to get the classes to get the Spanish endorsement, you can do that too.

Also, its lucky for you that this is one of the very few teaching fields in Illinois that is actually hiring. This is why they have the "transitional" license. Basically any district with a lot of Spanish speakers will probably be looking for bilingual teachers, and in the Chicago-area, that is a lot of districts. If that interests you, here's a website:

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Good Luck!

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Gab On 10/19/12, sped wrote: > On 10/19/12, Gab wrote: > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Thanks for your answer. See, I do not have any problems taking >> the classes, the problem is the money and the time. I do not >> have the money to pay $100 or more per credit and even...See MoreOn 10/19/12, sped wrote: > On 10/19/12, Gab wrote: > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Thanks for your answer. See, I do not have any problems taking >> the classes, the problem is the money and the time. I do not >> have the money to pay $100 or more per credit and even if I do, >> I have just until June 2013! > > Why until June 2013? If its because the deficiency statement > expires, that simply means that you must pay another application fee. > This is a relatively small expense compared to the cash you will > have to lay out to take a new college major. > >> Probably I should have explained that I already have a Spanish >> teaching certificate from Colorado; I went through the >> alternative teaching program. They waived my 32 Spanish credits >> because I have 10 years of experience teaching Spanish and I >> passed the placement test. So, that frustrates me because here in > Illinois, they say there is not other way to do this... > > Yeah. Illinois really doesn't do reciprocity. Technically they do, > but not like other states. For instance, a long time ago, I moved > here from Michigan. I had earned my degree and teaching certificate > there, though I never worked there as a teacher. Strangely, I had to > take a middle school class if I wanted to teach grades 6-8, despite > the fact that my Michigan certification was K-12 and we were supposed > to have reciprocity. So, I took it and it wasn't an issue because my > first year was at a high school > > I can't see ISBE waiving all, or nearly all credit hours in a major. > Its just not written into Illinois School Code. > >> Anyways, I am new to this state, so I need all the help I can >> get to go through this. If you know of anyway I can get this >> credits asap I will appreciate it! > > 32 credit hours would be the equivalent of one year full time > undergraduate study. Since we're in October already, you really only > have one semester, maybe two if you find a college that has a really > short Spring/Summer semester. Even if you aren't working and > dedicate yourself fully to this, I just don't see anyone completing > 32 credits in one semester. > > There are accredited universities out there that offer online or > correspondence classes that will count. You can complete some of > them at your own pace, which in your case can be very fast. > Unfortunately, a quick google search doesn't find many Spanish > classes online. Brigham Young has one Spanish Lit course for 3 > credits. University of North Dakota Independent study has a couple, > but I don't know if you want to take Spanish 101 and learn to count > in Spanish again. University of Phoenix has some content area > courses, but it doesn't look like they have much Spanish available. > The credits don't all have to be from the same university. You can > search for some others, but again: June 2013 just doesn't seem > possible to finish 10-11 classes. > > Now, you must have a college degree of some sort. Have you looked at > your transcripts and tried to figure out a teaching major that you > might be able to put together? For instance, you may have taken a > number of social sciences: history, psychology, poly sci, etc. > (social studies is not a teaching field that is in demand at all in > Illinois, but at least you would have a teaching certificate and you > could add Spanish later). Or, you might have enough English, Bio, > Chem, computers or math credits to get close to a teaching major > there. You could then take a few classes, maybe via correspondence, > and get an endorsement in another subject. > > Now, luckily for you, you aren't totally shut out of teaching if you > don't have another major. I also looked up the whole bilingual > certification thing. Its called a Type 29 "transitional" teaching > certificate. It is basically for people with a bachelor's degree in > any subject who speak Spanish (and a couple of other languages, but > mostly Spanish). So, you take a test to prove that you can speak > Spanish, and boom, you're a bilingual teacher. You just have to take > several courses over the next six years to get your full teaching > certificate. Possibly similar to what you did in Colorado. However, > you won't be teaching Spanish I to English speakers anymore. You'll > be teaching native Spanish speakers core academics. From what I > know, the bilingual/ > ESL departments get a lot of leeway when it comes to "highly > qualified" requirements, just like we do in the special ed > department, so you could find yourself teaching any and all core > content classes. If you want to get the classes to get the Spanish > endorsement, you can do that too. > > Also, its lucky for you that this is one of the very few teaching > fields in Illinois that is actually hiring. This is why they have > the "transitional" license. Basically any district with a lot of > Spanish speakers will probably be looking for bilingual teachers, and > in the Chicago-area, that is a lot of districts. If that interests > you, here's a website: > > [link removed].

well, thanks again, you have been very helpful!

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