Hello all. My wife recently received a conditional offer and we're going through the process now, yay! I did however come across the so-called "5 year rule" for DoD employees, and I had never heard that before. Is it really hard to stay at your school past 5 years?
As far as I know, DoDEA teachers have never been subject to the 5 year rule. We have the opposite problem in that it is very difficult to NOT stay at your school, should you wish a change of scenery.
IsItFriday?The 5 year rule does not apply to DoDEA teachers.
And while the conditional offer may refer to a one year tour or a two year tour, DoDEA teachers do not have tours or a DEROS, and currently there is no process in place for transferring to another location.
You should plan on staying in that location for ten years.
Are all regular teaching position openings going through EAS first and only go on USAJOBS if they can't be filled there or are there circumstances where they get posted on USAJOBS right away?
IcanreadWell, I'm quite curious, Dr. Fant! How did you find out about the position? USAjobs? Another site? This is brand new info for me. Also… congrats!!!
Has anyone ever heard of a teacher's spouse getting a work visa in an overseas location while the teacher works with DODEA? There is a possibility that this would be the only way the spouse could earn an income, if there was no position available on base. I wasn't sure what the rules are for a spouse as far as earning an income overseas. Thanks!
I saw a discussion on here a long time ago, but am wondering how many credits are needed to qualify for going becoming an administrator. I have a masters degree (not in admin) plus some additional credits. Thank you
Has anyone PCSed to Iwakuni with pets recently during Covid? Anyone PCSed to Iwakuni recently and had issues with finding base housing and temp lodging? I'm trying to figure out how easy it will be to bring my pets with the 180 day quarantine required in Japan and Covid restrictions. Thanks to anyone who can provide information.
IcanreadAs I drink my coffee this morning, I will share some of my story. I first found out about Dodea after I had been teaching for about 12 years. A co-worker told me about a friend who had taught in Korea for Dodea, and it intrigued me, as I am always up for adventures. So I applied for elementary positions, received a handful of referrals, and kept ad...See MoreAs I drink my coffee this morning, I will share some of my story. I first found out about Dodea after I had been teaching for about 12 years. A co-worker told me about a friend who had taught in Korea for Dodea, and it intrigued me, as I am always up for adventures. So I applied for elementary positions, received a handful of referrals, and kept adding certs (on a whim I added Spanish which I had 24 credits in from college 20 years prior but had never taught and wasn't even fluent in). Lo and behold, I got a referral to teach elementary Spanish, interviewed (over 2 months after the referral), was honest about not being fluent, and I got the job offer. Two months later, my family and I were on the ground in Japan, and I was teaching Spanish to elementary students. I did that for a year and a half until the program was terminated. Then I was moved to another school in the same area and was a reading specialist for a year. The population of that school went down, and I was moved to another local school where I was supposed to teach kindergarten (but was detailed to teach for the virtual school for a semester). Then I taught 2nd grade in person and finally moved to a brand new school on the same base where I was a half and half position (reading specialist and gifted/AAPS). While overseas, I also got my masters and started applying for ISS positions (similar to the role of an instructional coach), and after a year of referrals/interviews, I was offered a position as an ISS stateside and have been here for a couple months, and so far I absolutely love my job (building relationships with teachers, visiting classes and interacting with students, supporting and encouraging teachers, and more). I taught at 5 schools in 3 ½ years so it's been a crazy adventure for me!
What else could I be d...See MoreHi all, I've had my application in for about a year now. I'm a fourth-year teacher with AP experience, certified NY state teacher, no dependents, 2 master's degrees - in history and in teaching. Both of my parents are vets; I've attended school in Europe, and am qualified to teach both humanities and social studies.
What else could I be doing to bolster my application? Should I also have an application on USAJobs? I know this can be quite the waiting game but would love to know if there's anything else I can be doing to make my application more appealing. Thanks so much.
You might want to look at your transcripts and see if there are any additional areas you could add with a class or two. If AVID is offered in your state/district, consider adding it (it can usually only takes a workshop). If you haven't, maybe also look into adding the relevant AP College Board training/cert areas if feasible, to go with the experience.
Other than that, there isn't THAT much you can do to increase your chances or speed up the process, short of getting hired with a DoDEA Americas school, which "could" help your chances with being hired by DoDEA overseas (or marrying someone on active duty who gets orders to a base with a DoDEA school).
The vast majority of teaching positions (if not all) will go through EAS. Other positions like ISS could be on USA Jobs. It couldn't hurt to have an application active with them.
I did a troop to teacher program and have been a state certified teacher for all but 2 years of my teaching career, as well as having 2 masters degrees (curriculum & instruction and educational leadership). DODEA says I'm missing 4 classes for them to consider my application (teaching reading, writing, math, and social studies). I was wondering if I could still get a job as a sub (my wife's country always has adverts for subs) just to get my foot in the door, then take the classes in the hopes of getting pulled on permanently, or is it all wishful thinking? I figure the adverts for subs are more or less for military spouses simply so the school in need can have a warm body in the room on days the regular teacher is out. The classes are $2400 total but I've read this board for years now and I'm not sure if I want to pay for the classes if my chances of getting hired are still so low. Thoughts or opinions?
What certification area(s) are you looking for with DoDEA? I would think that you should be able to find the 4 required classes for cheaper than $2400.
If you were to be considered qualified by DoDEA, you would have as good a shot as anyone (better than some) to be hired, with your experience and qualifications. Living overseas already might complicate your status as far as LQA, etc. but salary and other benefits might offset that enough to still make a it a great gig for you.
hahaIs your EAS active? If so, are your original references still in there? As for HR, ask your secretary for a contact and start there. They are generally pretty good with passing you on to someone else if it is not their area of responsibility.
Does anyone know if an NTE can be converted to a permanent position after 90 days? I'm currently an NTE, covering a teacher on medical leave. There are a number of openings at my school but unfortunately I didn't make the list for any of them.
The rules are ...See MoreYour response is more of an attack. An attack against me. I didn't take your job. I'm not blocking your conversion to a permanent position.
Please don't shoot the messenger.
When I read your response objectively, I don't see anything that supports the notion that HR should abandon the rules and convert you.
The rules are for the greater population. Yes, it may be unfortunate that one person has gamed the system, but that doesn't mean that you should conveniently slide into a permanent position after 90 days.
Maybe I could be more understanding of your rant, but you have failed to convince me that you are the best candidate.
Our children deserve the best candidate.
Your fight is with HR and how they deal with older teachers, close to retirement, with medical issues. But these teaches are protected by EEO laws. Is it possible that these EEO laws exist for a reason?
The bigger/more relevant question for you should probably be why you are not on the local hire list for those positions. Have you double-checked your EAS, followed with HR and/or admin at the school(s)?
As far as I know, DoDEA teachers have never been subject to the 5 year rule. We have the opposite problem in that it is very difficult to NOT stay at your school, should you wish a change of scenery.