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by Tracey

Dec 11, 2012

I am a SPED teacher of 5th grade students. Their disabilities are mostly learning disabilities with a couple being emotionally disturbed. My classroom started off with just two students, now it's grown to nine. Of course, when it's was just two everything was peaceful. Now, as more students have been added, the atmosphere of the room has changed. There are seven boys and 2 girls. The students want to talk all day long!. On top of that, their personalities often clash with each other. It doesn't matter if we're doing something fun or just doing a reading comprehension passage that they may find boring. I often include technology lessons in my room to keep them engaged (particularly in Math). I have an assistant in the room who consistently fusses. I do discipline by taking away privileges and calling parents when necessary. My assistant is sometimes like a drill sargeant and often stresses herself out fussing. I'm opposite because I don't think that constantly yelling and going back and...See MoreI am a SPED teacher of 5th grade students. Their disabilities are mostly learning disabilities with a couple being emotionally disturbed. My classroom started off with just two students, now it's grown to nine. Of course, when it's was just two everything was peaceful. Now, as more students have been added, the atmosphere of the room has changed. There are seven boys and 2 girls. The students want to talk all day long!. On top of that, their personalities often clash with each other. It doesn't matter if we're doing something fun or just doing a reading comprehension passage that they may find boring. I often include technology lessons in my room to keep them engaged (particularly in Math). I have an assistant in the room who consistently fusses. I do discipline by taking away privileges and calling parents when necessary. My assistant is sometimes like a drill sargeant and often stresses herself out fussing. I'm opposite because I don't think that constantly yelling and going back and forth with students is the answer. However, I feel she gets better results sometimes (but, still only temporarily). One student told me that two of the boys feel they can get away with things moreso with me than the assistant because I don't fuss like she does. I feel like I'm losing control of some of them and need to know how to get the control back. They all realize I'm the teacher because I do all of the instruction but when they get into trouble (for example in the cafeteria) although I have already fussed them out she jumps on them again but in a rougher tone. I don't know if age plays a part because she has been at the school for many years and they can see she is much older. That shouldn't have anything to do with respect, however. One kid asked her if she could ever be nice. Do I need to handle more of the discipline? I feel it's ok for both of us to discipline because there are times when I'm not in the room with them because I'm at IEP meetings or some other meeting. Please advise.

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Vet Teacher On 12/11/12, Tracey wrote:

Let's first say that in the army officers have their top sergeants and they work as a team. The sergeants have a special toughness. The officer gives the orders, the sergeants see that the order is carried out.

Why can't the two of work like that? Your post is confusing in that you say you don't want he...See MoreOn 12/11/12, Tracey wrote:

Let's first say that in the army officers have their top sergeants and they work as a team. The sergeants have a special toughness. The officer gives the orders, the sergeants see that the order is carried out.

Why can't the two of work like that? Your post is confusing in that you say you don't want her being rough on the kids but then you go on to say you feel like you yourself are losing control of the class.

What is your goal? The reason you're given an aide in a SPED classroom is because it's thought that there should be an aide in the room to help with classroom management. She doesn't plan curriculum, does she? Classroom management is exactly what she's supposed to help with.

You say you do discipline by taking away privileges and calling parents - is that working or not? Do you feel like she's got control and you don't?

I'd agree that constantly scolding children causes them to disregard the constant scolding and it's wearing on the spirits. But - is the constant scolding she does working or not?

Do you have a building principal? I have a great one and I could take exactly this kind of problem to him. Is there a mentor teacher in your building? I think you'd get best advice from a building colleague. Good luck. > I am a SPED teacher of 5th grade students. Their > disabilities are mostly learning disabilities with a couple > being emotionally disturbed. My classroom started off with > just two students, now it's grown to nine. Of course, when > it's was just two everything was peaceful. Now, as more > students have been added, the atmosphere of the room has > changed. There are seven boys and 2 girls. The students > want to talk all day long!. On top of that, their > personalities often clash with each other. It doesn't > matter if we're doing something fun or just doing a reading > comprehension passage that they may find boring. I often > include technology lessons in my room to keep them engaged > (particularly in Math). I have an assistant in the room who > consistently fusses. I do discipline by taking away > privileges and calling parents when necessary. My assistant > is sometimes like a drill sargeant and often stresses > herself out fussing. I'm opposite because I don't think > that constantly yelling and going back and forth with > students is the answer. However, I feel she gets better > results sometimes (but, still only temporarily). One > student told me that two of the boys feel they can get away > with things moreso with me than the assistant because I > don't fuss like she does. I feel like I'm losing control of > some of them and need to know how to get the control back. > They all realize I'm the teacher because I do all of the > instruction but when they get into trouble (for example in > the cafeteria) although I have already fussed them out she > jumps on them again but in a rougher tone. I don't know if > age plays a part because she has been at the school for many > years and they can see she is much older. That shouldn't > have anything to do with respect, however. One kid asked > her if she could ever be nice. Do I need to handle more of > the discipline? I feel it's ok for both of us to discipline > because there are times when I'm not in the room with them > because I'm at IEP meetings or some other meeting. Please > advise. > > > > >

Dec 12, 2012

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pixie Tracey, you keep talking about negative responses to the misbehavior, but what about creating more incentives and rewards for good behavior? This can be anything from praising them any time they are doing what they should be doing, to creating a formal reward system. Research shows that positive rewards are much more motivating than negative conseq...See MoreTracey, you keep talking about negative responses to the misbehavior, but what about creating more incentives and rewards for good behavior? This can be anything from praising them any time they are doing what they should be doing, to creating a formal reward system. Research shows that positive rewards are much more motivating than negative consequences, and that praise itself is very powerful.

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On 12/12/12, Vet Teacher wrote: > On 12/11/12, Tracey wrote: > > Let's first say that in the army officers have their top > sergeants and they work as a team. The sergeants have a > special toughness. The officer gives the orders, the sergeants > see that the order is carried out. > > Why can't the two of work like that? Your post is confusing in > that you say you don't want her being rough on the kids but > then you go on to say you feel like you yourself are losing > control of the class. > > What is your goal? The reason you're given an aide in a SPED > classroom is because it's thought that there should be an aide > in the room to help with classroom management. She doesn't > plan curriculum, does she? Classroom management is exactly > what she's supposed to help with. > > You say you do discipline by taking away privileges and > calling parents - is that working or not? Do you feel like > she's got control and you don't? > > I'd agree that constantly scolding children causes them to > disregard the constant scolding and it's wearing on the > spirits. But - is the constant scolding she does working or > not? > > Do you have a building principal? I have a great one and I > could take exactly this kind of problem to him. Is there a > mentor teacher in your building? I think you'd get best advice > from a building colleague. > Good luck. >> I am a SPED teacher of 5th grade students. Their >> disabilities are mostly learning disabilities with a couple >> being emotionally disturbed. My classroom started off with >> just two students, now it's grown to nine. Of course, when >> it's was just two everything was peaceful. Now, as more >> students have been added, the atmosphere of the room has >> changed. There are seven boys and 2 girls. The students >> want to talk all day long!. On top of that, their >> personalities often clash with each other. It doesn't >> matter if we're doing something fun or just doing a reading >> comprehension passage that they may find boring. I often >> include technology lessons in my room to keep them engaged >> (particularly in Math). I have an assistant in the room who >> consistently fusses. I do discipline by taking away >> privileges and calling parents when necessary. My assistant >> is sometimes like a drill sargeant and often stresses >> herself out fussing. I'm opposite because I don't think >> that constantly yelling and going back and forth with >> students is the answer. However, I feel she gets better >> results sometimes (but, still only temporarily). One >> student told me that two of the boys feel they can get away >> with things moreso with me than the assistant because I >> don't fuss like she does. I feel like I'm losing control of >> some of them and need to know how to get the control back. >> They all realize I'm the teacher because I do all of the >> instruction but when they get into trouble (for example in >> the cafeteria) although I have already fussed them out she >> jumps on them again but in a rougher tone. I don't know if >> age plays a part because she has been at the school for many >> years and they can see she is much older. That shouldn't >> have anything to do with respect, however. One kid asked >> her if she could ever be nice. Do I need to handle more of >> the discipline? I feel it's ok for both of us to discipline >> because there are times when I'm not in the room with them >> because I'm at IEP meetings or some other meeting. Please >> advise. >> >> >> >> >>

Dec 23, 2012

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