More Democrat logic!

by Tim Finnegan

Jan 11, 2017

Mayor of Philadelphia, James Kenney (D), has some words for those upset with the price increase in sugary drinks in his city. It's not because of the new taxes (which I agree with, sugar is as big of a threat as anything to Americans) ... it's because of the evil business owners (who he probably thinks didn't build their business, someone else did) price gouging.

Does he not understand that businesses don't pay taxes, consumers do? Of course prices went up when he raised the taxes on sugary drinks.

Again, I think this is a great tax. Let's get rid of sugary drinks and the health problems caused by them! People in Philadelphia need to stop getting all wee wee'd up and realize that this tax is for their own good.

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T.E.C. - Iowa It is absolutely true that America must deal with sugar. If you do not it will bankrupt your health care system, and that includes if we go to the more efficient Medicare for All.

Simply put, Sugar qualifies as a "public health problem!"

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Jan 12, 2017

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liberals want a nanny state run by unelected proctors On 1/12/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: > It is absolutely true that America must deal with sugar. If > you do not it will bankrupt your health care system, and that > includes if we go to the more efficient Medicare for All. > Simply put, Sugar qualifies as a "public health problem!"

The reason for this is the Federal gov't...See MoreOn 1/12/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: > It is absolutely true that America must deal with sugar. If > you do not it will bankrupt your health care system, and that > includes if we go to the more efficient Medicare for All. > Simply put, Sugar qualifies as a "public health problem!"

The reason for this is the Federal gov't. They subsidize sugar producers, they gave the nation dietary guidelines based on bad science and they treat agriculture as a political problem. > However, this is not true, "Does he not understand that > businesses don't pay taxes, consumers do?" > Business owners will pass on a tax if they can, but > sometimes that is not possible. The biggest problem is, > buyer > resistance! No business owner is going to pass on a 10&37; tax > if doing so causes the consumers to reduce consumption by 50&37; > - or some other number that reduces the business's income > more than the loss from eating the tax. > Simply put, this statement is only made by those who do not > understand "elasticity of demand."

Consumers don't care about elasticity of demand. That's a economics term used by people who lack compassion or any understanding of the needs of humans.

> But more, to pass on all of that tax that product needs to > have an inelastic demand curve. This is most often true for > necessities. Luxury items like sugar tend to be very elastic, > because people do not need them. Products, like sugar, are > the very products in which it is the most difficult to pass on > all of the tax.

A tax is passed to grab money away from consumers and businesses. In other words, it is a tactic used by gov't to finance it's activities. They are going where the money is and this in particular is a tax that penalizes the poor and uneducated.If the tax is high enough it can suppress the activity, or, more likely, it will create a black market for the product. This is yet another reason why voters rejected the democrats

> Plus, if there is a drop in consumption, there will likely be > a drop in the price of the commodity. News flash! The sugar > farmers do not have the option of simply saying "we will > charge more, because we are selling less."

But the soda manufacturers do have that option. > The point: It is a myth that businesses will always pass on > any and all taxes. That is only true in the simplistic world > of those who l isten to Neoliberal propaganda.

Speaking of propaganda, you are spouting progressive propaganda. You see all taxes as just fine because citizens are forced to support a gov't that does not care about them.

> > In the meanwhile, if the prices do not increase and > consumption does not decrease - which is the goal - the taxes > will likely be increased again. Taxes on sugar will likely > follow the same path as taxes on tobacco. That means a tax > increase will be followed by an examination of what happened. > If sugar consumption is still a problem, taxes will be > increased again - because we must solve this problem.

The last I checked, people still smoke tobacco. In NY, taxes went so high that black marketeers were selling contraband cigarettes on the street. People will still get their soft drinks and will avoid the tax by going around it.

The more important point though is that gov't has no business telling us what we can and cannot put in our bodies.

Jan 12, 2017

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