Has this been covered? substitute alert and substitute assistant no longer support SmartFindExpress (at least for my district. Is there another system?? Is there any word on trying to upgrade these apps.? Help!
I was given lesson plans by the daily teacher. Yet (as always) this TA walks in, and decides to take the class over, telling the students: "There is a change in plan". During another period, the students were taking a test, and she announces to the students that she "gave [me] permission to take their papers away if [they're] talking". Really, Ms. TA? I thought I had some say in the matter.
Mind you, I am certified to teach the subject, and have several years of teaching experience. The TA has no training beyond high school.
Besides the humiliation, this sends a message to the students that any "regular" staff member has authority over a sub who is far superior academically and legally. What's nest? The custodian comes in and gives a lecture on differential equations?
Nickster143Hi there, I have been a sub for 18 years this year. I have come across many student teachers and Para's that have tried to assume full control of the classroom. Often, I see that para's who are very familiar with the already established routine in the classroom and I will allow them to take the lead in order to keep the classroom flowing as smooth ...See MoreHi there, I have been a sub for 18 years this year. I have come across many student teachers and Para's that have tried to assume full control of the classroom. Often, I see that para's who are very familiar with the already established routine in the classroom and I will allow them to take the lead in order to keep the classroom flowing as smooth as possible. This makes my job easier. :) However, with that said. There are times that I have had to remind the Para and Student Teacher that it is school district policy that I (the sub) am completely responsible for everything that goes on in the room. The teacher does not have the authority to override the school district policy and authorize the para or student teacher to assume that responsibility. The principle does not have the authority to give the student teacher (non school district employee) the right to assume all responsibility of the classroom. The para (regardless if certified or not) does not have the authority to be even in the classroom by themselves with the students unless the sub is in the room. There are a lot of policies involved in this. The sub is just as responsible as the regular teacher is. While you are in charge of the classroom, you are completely responsible for their education, safety and school district policy. Although the students are more familiar with the para or student teacher and can help things move more smoothly, they cannot take the place of their permanent teacher when he or she leaves. They have to stay within the role of their employment or contract. Student teachers are there via contract with a university and are not employees by the way. I know this Thread had nothing to do with student teacher, I just added this information as food for thought.
Today I ended my day not sure if I would be invited back to sub. I had an assignment for a teacher in the middle school, all my classes were for 8th grade social studies. Earlier in the day I had been warned of a few students, this is not unusual. I always try to assume the best from the reputation of students, and base my opinion on the student wh...See MoreToday I ended my day not sure if I would be invited back to sub. I had an assignment for a teacher in the middle school, all my classes were for 8th grade social studies. Earlier in the day I had been warned of a few students, this is not unusual. I always try to assume the best from the reputation of students, and base my opinion on the student when we meet based on their behavior in classroom. Today, one of the students in question was in my 5th hour classroom and immediately started being disruptive. The first order of business was to read aloud, I ask the student to read the first paragraph (all the other students in the class were condoning the unruly behavior by giggling every time the student said something funny and disruptive). I continued to have the student read, and in turn actually created a more balanced classroom and the class had settled a little bit. We had moved on to the next task, but the student was still being intolerable. I spoke to them and had asked the rest of the class not to follow up with condoning the behavior. There is a par in the room, who had not attempted to help or even speak to the student, just as I had maintained a level of order, and we were moving on again, the para leaps up and walks out of the room. I had a feeling I knew what she was doing. She went and got the principle. As a sub, yes you appreciate anytime the principle makes an appearance in your classroom, but you also know it makes you look like you can't handle the classroom. That is your job. The para didn't say anything prior to, I tried speakingto her when she came in and she brushed me off. So now I am feeling like I may not get called back to sub. I didn't ask her to go get the principle, nor do I feel like I could not handle the situation that had already been deescalated. Does this type of incident matter when getting a call back? has this happened to anyone else? Should I say something to the para bout what she did? I am new to that grade and she directly undermined my authority in the classroom, which can sometimes be difficult to establish as a sub to begin with.
by Has anyone ever had a problem while working with a teacher
Jan 29, 2017
contracting group? I worked for a tutoring group for 5 classes before they let me go without any explanation. I did a lot of work for them and felt good about the work I was doing. Then out of the blue, after I set up the classroom and did the paperwork, I was let go. Is this typical?
AngieI am a retired teacher who has been subbing for 2 years. I can write a book about my experiences as being treated as a "nobody". I am very conscientious. I leave the room cleaner than I found it. I grade the papers. I sharpen all the pencils before I leave. I follow the teacher's plans and share my expertise with the class. I had subbed at a school...See MoreI am a retired teacher who has been subbing for 2 years. I can write a book about my experiences as being treated as a "nobody". I am very conscientious. I leave the room cleaner than I found it. I grade the papers. I sharpen all the pencils before I leave. I follow the teacher's plans and share my expertise with the class. I had subbed at a school last year more than 30 times. I accept the rough jobs many times. I arrived at the school last Tuesday to find that the class I had picked up that happened to be a gifted class that was a pleasure to teach; was given to another substitute.. I had spent preparation time the night before because the teacher had not left lesson plans the last tine I picked up the class. When I told the sub locator that I had picked up the class, she told me the computers went wild the day before. This was an excuse because the computers at the school have nothing to do with the district wide system of accepting jobs. I was told by a teacher at the school that the job was given to the principal's daughter. In the district in which I was employed for 30 years, relatives of the principal were not allowed to work at the school. I was placed in the media center with the librarian who asked me to file the hundreds of books back on the shelf. As I was bending up and down at a job a volunteer could do, I threw my back out and was in severe pain. I left the school after an hour and went home. I forgot to mention that the sub locator told me when I arrived that I could go home if I wanted. So there is a great deal of favoritism and nepotism going on in some schools. Of course, I will never return there but I am generally getting fed up with substitute teaching. At another school, a teacher told me she had requested someone else to sub for her. Obviously, this person canceled the assignment or it would not have appeared on my screen as an available job. As a teacher, I always treated the subs with respect. I really have a difficult time comprehending how I am oftentimes treated as a substitute teacher.
tjbteachit is quite common to be a mainstay somewhere and then all of sudden being let go. I don't quite understand why lies are necessary, but usually the truth avoids the person being let o
jess2010Ze! Are you still on the substitute chatboard? I have not been active for about five years. I think my user name was janine or jess and I remember you well from back then. I was a substitute also for ten years but have now had a different job in my school system. How are you doing and are you planning on subbing again this coming school year?
All I can say is that although you and I have had an awful experience, not all classrooms are like this. I have subbed at another middle school where I absolutely adore the students! Don't let one bad day keep you from taking additional jobs. Just think about all of the great subbing days you have had and let that be your motivation to keep going! Good luck. :) And do not feel bad about leaving that awful job. You should have told the principal you will gladly never work there again! It is not part of our job description to be sexually and verbally harassed.
Of the teachers, many of whom I have done long term Subbing jobs for and they have been very pleased with my performance. The kids all know me and like me and respect me as a teacher. After interviewing, the principal called me back and said despite a fantastic interview, for some reason (he had no idea why) I was not chosen for ANY of the positions I applied for. This is not the first time this has happened (some of these teachers even asked me to apply!).
We are hard up for substitutes right now especially good ones and I few I was "overlooked" because of that status. How do I get teachers to see me as more than just a "good sub?"
elsievUnfortunately, in many districts the really great subs don't get permanent positions simply because "a good sub is hard to find" -- whereas in today's market (especially for elementary positions) there are many, many "good" applicants. So, they'll take one of the outside applicants so that they can retain you as a "great sub". Sad, but true.
Hello fellow subs! I was just in a classroom that had a microphone system and I loved it. Has anyone found a portable system that works well for them? Thanks!